Which Linux distro is running in Thomson TVs. What are the capabilties.

  • Robin@lemmy.world
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    Unless you have the ability to root it, does it matter? It’s likely a completely custom, stripped down distro anyway.

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      Just want to stay away from Android TV crapps and ads. ( Also, dont need root as of now - Based on forum posts, root access is not allowed )

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            Keep the smart TV off the network and the difference is usually minimal.

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                From standby isn’t that noticeable. Definitely a bit of a difference in cold-boot times though.

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              Can’t speak for others but mine puts up big intrusive banners if you don’t connect it to the internet.

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                Maybe you can trick it by using a private DNS server. Maybe someone already cracked their API and has a manual how to run your own server telling the tv „bro, everything easy“ Just google jailbreak (insert tv name) this should be a good start for digging.

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              Plenty of them will auto connect to what ever open network. So you can’t guarantee that. Or various exploits that could exist in the wifi stack. It’s not the same as buying a “dumb” tv.

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                That is what we call ‘breaching hacking laws’. In other words, if you catch your TVs doing that, lawsuits can be brought against the supplier.

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                  No it isn’t, there’s no hacking involved in connecting to a wifi network. Plus different jurisdictiona might see it differently anyway. And good luck with your lawsuits against mega corps.

                  This isn’t some hypothetical, this is something smart TVs are known to be doing, right now.

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            I think there’s a few models that are not really advertised, don’t know them though.

            Seems unattractive for manufacturers since apparently 50% of income on TVs is user data.

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            No, but you can likely remove the Wi-Fi and any other Wireless chips that you don’t need (other than the IR). That, and use it as a display for a computer through HDMI

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            But if you don’t connect your smart tv to anything how is it smart.

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            Yes, as long as you never connect your TV to the internet, then it is for all intents and purposes a “dumb tv.”

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        Android TVs are also Linux TVs, in fact I have a good degree of certainty that most smart TVs are Linux, developing a whole OS from scratch is hard, much easier to use one that already exists.

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            WebOS isn’t based on PalmOS. PalmOS was it’s own completely unique OS for PDAs and phones, WebOS was Palm’s Linux-based successor to PalmOS for the Pre. Eventually LG ended up with it and turned it into a TV and watch OS.

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              WebOS is such a sad story. It started as a pretty innovative and interesting mobile OS at a time when phone manufacturers bothered to innovate. Then it ended up being owned by the grossest software company ever, HPE, and now it’s a pathetically crappy TV operating system. What is LG even doing?

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                Yeah if it could use modern cell networks and the like 3 apps I actually need I would switch from my modern android phone to a Pre in a heartbeat. It is by far my favorite mobile os

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            That article made me realize how old my TV is, and certainly made me appreciate WebOS compared to the previous OS I could have had if I had gotten my TV two years prior.

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            This is true and something to consider. There’s also no app for Crunchyroll which is personally a huge downside.

            It’s still the best user experience and I seriously dread having to use other people’s TVs now. Even major players like Samsung are seriously lacking in comparison.

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      “Honey the remote stopped working”

      God damn it the last update installed libir 2.1.5 which pymote 4.7.0 isn’t yet compatible with.

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    i just want a dumb tv with the latest panel tech and no planned obsolescence. I have so many computers that can provide “smarts” already

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    “Smart” TVs are such a waste when they lock all the hardware and firmware into a device that’ll either be unsupported in a few years or too slow to work with new apps.

    I’d much rather a dumb TV and stick a Roku/Raspberry Pi. via HDMI. You get all the same control but none of the bullshit

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    I’m really happy with my android TV, but it makes me feel bad to know that my computer is free from GAFAMs but my TV keeps telling them what I’m watching and doing.

    About the mini PC on the side, the ecological impact of having a second device turned on is preventing me from doing that.

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      Something like a ASRock 4x4 with a 5800U should draw about 10W in idle, but you can certainly shut it off when you’re not watching. I use a small tower because it also holds some storage for my home NAS and jellyfin server.

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      A small secondary device is not going to hurt your power consumption just for video playback. ARM chips are capable of 1080p playback just fine and have really decent power consumption numbers to boot.

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    I’m against Android but I admit it’s getting harder and harder to get “connected” (not to say “smart”) device without it on. Anyway I did give up on my 55" Samsung TV for a video projector from Nebula. It’s so compact it sits under the former TV stand. I installed VLC on it and connect to my RPi4 with a DNLA server on it and watch content I downloaded before. Not a perfect setup but quite happy with it. Until then I was using LibreElec on the RPi to drive the TV.

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      Using LibreElec, were you able to get any streaming services running like Netflix or YouTube?

      I would like a UI I could use with a remote but the wife still needs Netflix so Kodi wouldn’t cut it.

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          This looks really intriguing. Have you installed it on a raspberry pi? I’m having some difficulties and wondering if there are other packages I need to install first.

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            I haven’t, just something I came across when I was researching the same thing. Part of my plans soonish, tho

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        I specifically do not use streaming services. I don’t have the discipline to avoid binge watching and I trust dark patterns to be too good to keep me hooked. I only rely on files I download. I believe, maybe naively, that the extra step keeps me in check.

        IMHO VLC as a UI is sufficient and it works well with the remote of the Nebula video projector. I don’t need Kodi anymore. Sure sometimes you don’t have nice covers but if your filesystem hierarchy is clear, directories are sufficient. It does look less “sexy” but again in my context of being mindful of screen time that’s a feature.

    • max641@lemmy.worldOP
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      That’s a nice idea… ( even though, I want to avoid Android )

      Ps: I guess your samsung is Android TV and not Tizen

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        Whenever I’ll hit a limit with Nebula I might tinker to see if I could replace Android with Linux proper. It might be all supported hardware but I truly don’t know.

        PS: iirc the Samsung TV was Tizen, it was a relatively old model but now it’s gathering dust so I don’t know.

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    I basically don’t use TV. I have a simple, old wide screen 16:9 monitor that was gifted to me. Good enough.