Chinese authorities wrongfully detained more than 20 Tibetans and severely tortured a Tibetan village head named Gonpo Namgyal to death with the repeated use of electric equipment in detention for several months in Ponkor township, Darlag County in Golog in the traditional Tibetan province of Amdo now incorporated into Qinghai, Sichuan and Gansu provinces.

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    I mean I’m not sure what I expected here in the comments, but still. What do you think happens in Tibet and with the Muslim minorities? Cherishing of multiculturalism by the CCP?

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      Consider: in the US and Canada, the European colonizers established residential schools where they housed indigenous children. Those children were beaten for using their native languages. They were beaten for behaving “uncivilized”. Laws were created and enforced in border towns to criminalize being indigenous.

      In China, Tibetans govern the day to day operations of Tibet. Children are educated in their native language. Official business is conducted in their native language. Tibetan holidays are observed. Tibetan traditions are observed.

      So, yes, most of us who knows anything about China expect Tibetans to be respected by the party as they have demonstrated for decades.

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      Having seen the quality of the slop, I know it’s an easy grift.

      Radio Free Asia[1]: Tibetan champion of language preservation dies after release

      Gonpo Namgyal, leader of Ponkor Village in Qinghai province’s Dharlag county, or Dari in Chinese, was arrested with the abbot of Shangtoe Monastery and over 20 other Tibetans in May for engaging in activities to promote the preservation of Tibetan language and culture, said the two sources who spoke on condition of anonymity due to safety concerns.

      China has stepped up efforts to erase Tibetan language use, including the closure of private Tibetan schools, the establishment of boarding schools where children are taught primarily in Mandarin, the prohibition of informal Tibetan language classes during winter break, and the organizing of Mandarin speech competitions in monasteries and schools.

      Hmm, where have I heard this story before? 🤔

      📽️

      Meanwhile at Wikipedia[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_China

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        Holy whataboutism, Batman! 🤦

        Indigenous people in North America being displaced and oppressed does NOT in fact make it acceptable for the Chinese government to oppress and ethnically cleanse Tibetan people.

        If anything, NOT committing crimes against humanity all the time would be THE most effective way for China to distinguish themselves from their geopolitical adversaries in a positive manner.

        TL;DR: Nice try, but just as two wrongs don’t make a right, the similar but separate atrocities of Western countries don’t excuse those of China in any way.

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          But china doesnt do that

          Projection is when the usa propaganda takes one of its own crimes and changes all mentions of “usa” to “china”

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            I’m pretty sure china does because that’s what all authoritarian empires have done and are doing throughout history.

            If there’s no evidence it just means they covered it up well enougg

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              You’re sure China is doing it is because (checks notes), Europeans did it?

              Listen to yourself. You are not engaged in reasoning, you are engaged in projection.

              Consider that China has watched European empire so this sort of thing, determined it to be ineffective at producing a stable society, and is choosing to not do that thing.

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              Damn, you’re just straight up doing the thing from the Parenti quote without even pretending otherwise.

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          NOT committing crimes against humanity all the time

          I’m sure you can provide reliable evidence of all these crimes against humanity. Evidence that is not merely made up assertions from western news media, politicians, and other dubious sources. But I won’t wait up.

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            I’m sure you can provide reliable evidence of all these crimes against humanity

            Nope, not all of them. Not because they didn’t happen. Because there’s too many to list in a week of non stop writing, which is about a week more than your bad faith requests deserve.

            Evidence that is not merely made up assertions from western news media, politicians, and other dubious sources.

            Yeah, you haven’t made up your mind already, nuh-uh! You’re DEFINITELY completely objective and the keeper of the Real Truth! 🙄

            But I won’t wait up.

            Wow, what a vicious and original barb! You must be feared throughout the lying West! Such eloquence! 🤦

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              Nope, not all of them. Not because they didn’t happen. Because there’s too many to list in a week of non stop writing, which is about a week more than your bad faith requests deserve.

              Awfully convenient how everyone always draws this arbitrary, bizarre moral line in the sand about how they can’t provide any evidence for any of their claims about China.

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                  Not pictured: a single source lmao. Your words mean nothing if you can’t back them up.

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                  Westerners like you truly are the most brainwashed people on earth.

                  Also it’s fucking hilarious that you’re calling other people tankies when you were calling for people to be lined up against a wall and shot less than an hour ago.

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                Nope, you’re supposed to believe it because it’s already been thoroughly and accurately documented countless times for several decades.

                Your willful ignorance of history is neither my fault nor my responsibility.

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          If anything, NOT committing crimes against humanity all the time would be THE most effective way for China to distinguish themselves from their geopolitical adversaries in a positive manner.

          How fucking ironic that you say this.

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            Only if you miss the fact that I’m implicitly conceding that Western nations are ALSO committing crimes against humanity.

            The world isn’t a binary where you have to deny some atrocities in able to be capable of condemning others.

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              Oh, how magnanimous of you, lol.

              Still deeply ironic that you said that though, while perfectly demonstrating exactly why it isn’t true.

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                Oh, how magnanimous of you, lol.

                Never said that there’s anything magnanimous or otherwise special about acknowledging objective reality rather than ignoring anything that contradicts tribalist dogma. Just because you’re incapable of it doesn’t make it a flex.

                Still deeply ironic that you said that though, while perfectly demonstrating exactly why it isn’t true.

                That makes no sense whatsoever.

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                  You acted like anyone should give a single nutty shit that you were so nobley willing to concede that the US is bad (but only as bad, never worse), despite it being completely irrelevant.

                  That makes no sense whatsoever.

                  Lol, Westerners really are the most brainwashed people on earth: they can’t even parse ideas contrary to their programming, let alone accept them.

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        Woah. I had no idea both of our countries were pieces of shit. I thought it was just China!

        /s

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      They planned to arrest them. The wrongful part is the suggestion that it was not for a valid reason.

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    Incredibly offensive, racist propaganda bullshit. Pure invention by hateful, deranged minds paid for by US congress.

    Let me start posting crazed stories about American congressmen going to schools and shooting the children in front of their parents. Perhaps that will even the odds. Closer to truth anyways considering the absolute tranches of human rights atrocities the genocide backing US government and their propaganda rags they call media cover for and cheer on.

    Honestly I left reddit so I could get away from US state dept employees posting their weird fiction.

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      Because they are terrified to find out that the system they live within is the real enemy.