Progressives aim to reinstate equilibrium to state’s lopsided politics that DeSantis has, in the eyes of some, dragged into fascism

  • Lawliss@midwest.social
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    1 year ago

    “In the eyes of some”? It doesn’t matter what the others think, he’s operating within the definition of fascism.

  • GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee
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    This idea that “oh if there’s any liberals left” is so smug and to me, is part of the reason why Florida and many other GOP-ruled states are where they are. The idea that the people who don’t like these regimes will move to New York, Illinois, or California is out of touch and absurd.

    With trans people alone, it’s estimated that 1.2-1.8% of the population of the US is trans. Florida’s population is 22.25 million. 400,000+ people should not have to become refugees in their own country. This cannot be the “response” to these laws.

    Florida is a fascist State, and I wish people would adopt the attitude toward “regime change” that they have for Russia when talking about Desantis.

  • ThatGirlKylie@lemmy.world
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    Little too late it seems. But if they are going to do something, then they better get a move on, lots of people moving out of state.

    It’s bad down here.

  • echoplex21@lemmy.world
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    The Republican strategy there seems to be deterring liberals from coming or staying in the state through these laws. At the same time whatever children are there will have a very watered dawn education to indoctrinate them and filter our former atrocities.

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    Florida is different because so many older, more conservative retirees move to Florida. And they vote. If it wasn’t for that, Florida would probably have been pretty solidly blue at this point.

    On the other hand, that has opened up other states for Democrats, e.g. Michigan and Pennsylvania.

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      Florida is red because of gerrymandering.

      Biden lost the popular vote in Florida by one or two percent. IRC De Santis won the state by less than 1%. Voters have often and overwhelmingly voted in favour of ‘left-wing’ ballot initiatives too.

      It should be a swing state.

      In any case, conservative retirees may be moving to Florida, but they’re also mor likely to leave Florida and this mortal coil than the average voter.

      • Hazdaz@lemmy.world
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        Florida is red because of gerrymandering.

        50% of Florida voters couldn’t be bothered to go vote in the last election. Stop thinking that everything can be blamed on gerrymandering. In even the most heavily gerrymandered districts, Dems could win if only they could get voters off their asses and out to the polls. To be clear, I am NOT saying it isn’t an issue, but I am sick of far too many on the Left using gerymandering or the EC as their crutch as to why they lose elections when they do not have a focused platform or compelling candidates in far too many races.

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          1 year ago

          You have a point.

          I suspect going on about gerrymandering too much, and inadvertently convincing some democratic voters they can’t win because of gerry mandering, isn’t helping either.

          • Hazdaz@lemmy.world
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            It becomes a crutch… “oh, why should we bother to go vote, when we know we will lose?” or worse yet, it undermines democracy in general by making people think the system is totally rigged. Those are the kinds of arguments that clowns like Trump use. I am not saying that everything is fair. Far from it, but apathy is one of the biggest weapons that fascist use to make people not want to go vote. Voter turnout is already pitiful - we can’t afford to lose more voters.

            • GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee
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              Democrats also chase after middle class votes when they should be in every fast food joint, retail chain, and other shitty minimum wage job, advocating for inflation-tied minimum wage increases, strengthened protections for organized labor, etc.

              (they don’t do this because they are a centrist party that doesn’t want the US to have the quality of life enjoyed by those in Western Europe)

  • Zerlyna@lemmy.world
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    IMHO let all the R’s move to Florida and concentrate themselves there. Make the rest of the states purple/blue.

    • Athena5898@kbin.social
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      you going to help the people who didn’t choose to live there get out? Really tired of people forgetting about marginalized and minorities getting the worst of this in these states. Also even if we could, you want to take all the fascists and get them together in a single spot that they can then use to strengthen their “Us vs Them” arguments? That’s how you get deadlier and even worst fascists.