Biden is self-destructing his own campaign.

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    He didn’t ‘confuse the Presidents of Egypt and Mexico,’ he accidentally referred to Egypt as “Mexico.” He was talking about negotiating with Sisi to get the border with Gaza open for humanitarian aid; so he was talking about Egypt’s border and he was talking about Egypt’s president but he accidentally said “Mexico”; you know, the type of verbal gaff people have been making fun of him about for the last 40+ years.

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      This is another “Hillary’s Emails” smear attempt, except it isn’t going to work well when Trump is 3 years younger than Biden and saying much more demented things.

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        Also he tried to kill his own vice president when he didn’t do what Trump wanted, committed multiple rapes, and said he is above the law.

        I feel like that kind of thing should get mentioned more often whenever someone starts comparing candidates. It’s like that Batman comic where they elected The Joker mayor.

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        Holy shit, liberals really are gonna hand the presidency right over to Trump again, aren’t they

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          Do you know of a willing candidate who has a significant chance of beating Trump other than Biden?

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                Well I would argue that the DNC did stop Bernie with the desire to get Hillary on the ballot. But getting back to the question; It’s a long shot because of the naturalized citizen angle, but Cenk Uygur (known from the TYT podcasts) perhaps would be an interesting choice. A Turkish-born American though, sadly this will disqualify him with the current electoral rules, but at least he’s educated, and not over 80, and I know he’s fighting to stay in the run despite these hurdles.

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                The Florida Democratic Party’s executive committee voted to cancel their primary at the end of October 2023 and declare Biden the winner

                The Tennessee Democratic Party decided to list only Biden as a ballot option for its primary after a November 11 meeting

                The North Carolina Democratic Party acknowledged receiving requests for ballot access from Phillips and other candidates, but chose to only include Biden for its primary

                The Democratic Party of Wisconsin left Phillips off the ballot; he appealed to the Wisconsin Supreme Court on January 26, 2024. The court unanimously ruled on February 2 that Phillips should be included on the ballot.

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Phillips_2024_presidential_campaign

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            I’d say it’s less of a question of willingness and more of a question of “will the Democratic establishment tolerate this” thing. There is no discussion about support for Israel for example, and that’s just the most glaringly current one. Trump is awful in a lot of other ways, but one of his crimes is acting the radical to Biden’s moderate, making Biden and the Dems the only sensible choice.

            There is a problem with not being able to vote for people who would represent you, and only being able to vote for someone who is not a literal fascist. The US should be able to do better than one of its leading presidential candidates touting the accomplishment of identifying a whale in a picture book correctly.

            In a functioning democracy, there is more than one sane choice.

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              There is no shortage of people who could be willing to challenge the Democratic establishment. They just aren’t doing it. Unless you count Dean Phillips, and I don’t.

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                It’s hard to challenge the establishment if it is as established as it is. By the nature of the system, a challenger running on public healthcare or repealing anti-labour union regulations can’t come from outside the Dem party, since third party candidates don’t go anywhere. But you also can’t get anywhere with that inside the party, because you would be a fringe.

                The problem is that people don’t get to vote on policy, policy shifts depend on internal party dynamics. And that’s awfully far from a healthy democracy. Can you vote for prohibiting right-to-work laws in your next election? In mine, I get to say climate change is important to me, or free enterprise, or strong border controls, or a better healthcare system. I get to vote on issues that impact me and are important to me, largely without them being bundled together with stuff I don’t like. It’s not perfect, but it’s not like I get to choose between voting for the interests of corporations versus nazis.

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            Biden is the worst candidate of the bunch by that metric. His favorability is 17 points underwater right now, and he’s losing to Trump in most recent polls by around 4 to 6 points. And keep in mind that that’s measuring popular vote, not electoral votes. Hillary won the popular vote by 2 points and still lost the election. Biden needs to lead Trump by at least 3 points to even have a chance, it took a +4.5 margin to win last time around. And while we’re comparing to Hillary, her favorability was only 15 points underwater in October after the Comey report.

            Cornel West would be a way better choice. Even Dean Phillips would be less bad of a choice (y’know that whole “lesser evil” thing and all that). In polls, a generic Democrat leads Trump by 6 points.

            But it’s all a moot point because Democrats keep shutting down primaries and removing candidates from the ballot. They’re attempting another coronation just like they did in 2016 - why would any candidate try to run when the party leadership is shutting them down?

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              So you can’t actually name a willing candidate who has a significant chance of beating Trump other than Biden. Gotcha.

              By the way, you are aware that Cornel West isn’t running as a Democrat, right?

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                Gotcha.

                Bazinga!

                I’m super impressed by your ability to ignore literally everything I wrote.

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                  I read everything you wrote. It ignored what I wrote, which was:

                  Do you know of a willing candidate who has a significant chance of beating Trump other than Biden?

                  You did not name one. You made a lot of excuses, but you didn’t name one. Unless you think Cornell West has a chance of beating Trump. Polls certainly don’t suggest so.

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      People are making this weird fucking arguments like “Biden is so fucking senile he couldn’t even immediately drop the years of the Obama presidency” or whatever.

      Like what the fuck, I couldn’t drop the year of any single thing in my life without thinking about it long and hard, and I’m 30 with no sign of dementia. It’s just not how I remember things, and I feel like most people don’t.

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        I’m 46. Last year, I was filling out a form, and I had to ask my wife my age. She had to think about it. We’re both the same age.

        I don’t think we both have dementia.

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      I can dig it. He’s been beating the drum about the domestic border “crisis” with the republicans for a good while. When pressed about the Gaza border, he slipped with the name of the country.

      Who gives a shit. Plenty of people do it every minute of the day.

      A certain orange care home candidate has been doing it a lot recently. Sioux City, Orban, Pelosi…just to name a few gaffes.

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    9 months ago

    Which geriatric coffin dodger do you want, America? The fascist or the neo liberal?

    The choice is obvious, but, fuck if it ain’t depressing.

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      That’s what I hate about the:

      Still better than trump!

      Like, I’d rather have both my legs cut off than my head, most people would.

      But people ain’t going to stand in like 5 hours after work to pick. Because for a lot of us, having both legs cut off is just a slower death

      Because America doesn’t have basic social systems to care for us, and we’d get bankrupted by the medical bills

      That’s the choice:

      You want a slow death, or a fast one?

      Meanwhile neoliberals don’t understand why 1/3 of voters don’t vote

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        45% of voters didn’t vote when it was a 54 year old vs a 52 year old in 2000 Bush v Gore. It’s not the age thing.

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          The nepotism baby of HW, and one of the least charismatic people to run for president…

          Wonder why turnout was low…

          Meanwhile look at 92 and 08 when two of our youngest presidents ever, and they blow out everyone around them.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections

          2004 was only as high as it was because it was Bush after 9/11.

          But seriously though, trying to pass off Al Gore as a “young” candidate at 52 is hilarious, that man came out of the womb with bifocals complaining about “kids these days”.

          The sheer audacity of claiming 52 is young just highlights how normalized this has become. A 52 year old running for their first term should already be considered too old.

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              I don’t know if it would be worse if you were being sincere or trying to troll…

              But neither is a good look, have fun whatever you’re doing I guess

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        It’s a bit morbid, but thank goodness for COVID happening when it did as that forced the rapid expansion of early and mail in voting which helps mitigate this issue without addressing it directly.

        I don’t think there’s enough political will to do the sensible thing, make Election Day a federal holiday, because that would promote access to democracy to the lower classes and that is a threat to both parties.

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          All making it a holiday would accomplish is giving bankers the day off while most of everyone else who works for a living would still have work. On a day the buses aren’t running because it’s a holiday.

          But now we have a holiday, so there’s no need for early voting.

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            Hmm, I think that’s a very fair point. It seems very unlikely that the US would accommodate a holiday without asking service workers to work through it, or even incentivize it with extra pay.

            Do you think compulsory voting, like in Australia, would be more effective, then? Or perhaps another alternative?

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          Lol, this guy thinks the majority of workers get holidays off…

          The solution is making it a week. Give people a full ass week to vote, count em up at the end of the week.

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              You could have at least read the part you quoted chief…

              That doesn’t guarantee having the day off. Many people will still go to work on a holiday, however they will be compensated with higher pay or be allowed to use the holiday off in the future.

              So 1/4 dont get holidays, and of the 75% who do, “many” still work.

              You’re also ignoring that the 75% include everyone that gets a single day off. And acting like they’d also get this new holiday off.

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        Because it’s way too late for anyone else at this point. Unless you can think of someone who has a legitimate chance of beating both Trump and Biden.

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            I think one major criterion for presidential candidate has to be ‘wants to run for president.’

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              There’s no chance in hell I’d ever vote for a popstar for president. Entertainers have proven to do tons of damage to the country (see Reagan, Trump).

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                  She would turn 35 before inauguration, so she’d technically be eligible. Not speaking as to whether it would be a good idea or a bad one, but it’s possible.

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            “We”? We can’t really do much about it. It’s the RNC and DNC that control that.

            It would take the mass mobilization and coordination of a majority of Americans across party lines (big caveat there) to make a third party candidate viable. That’s an issue, especially when a significant part of the nation does indeed want fascist rule.

            Edit: I’m not even sure it would be useful to primary better candidates as it’s the DNC and RNC who controls who is on their primaries. Even when the DNC allowed someone like Bernie Sanders on the ticket, they did everything they could to squash his campaign.

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              This is the problem. The RNC and the DNC are both private businesses looking to profit in one way or another. Neither give one fuck about the citizens. They only run candidates that are willing to serve the PARTY.

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    9 months ago

    Keep trying! Biden is reading all these posts personally and it’s really making him bigsad.

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