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    This whole fucking situation is beyond absurd to me. Isn’treal is a fake country of fascists with the mentality of a spoiled infant. U.S. literally trying to work out deals with other countries to let their screaming, tantrum throwing, shit child attack them. I can only imagine the tantrum they are throwing when Daddy said “No” on this one.

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      I regret that Palestinians have to count with that shit Iran government.

      Only bad things can come out of Iran’s government

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        I saw your comment pop up, 30 seconds new, and it already had a downvote. Wtf?

        EDIT: I think I misread your comment the first time around, because I thought you felt bad for Palestinians because Iran was the only government attacking (i.e., no one else was), not because you think Iran’s government is bad. Whoops.

        Also, my comment was about how weird a comment could get a downvote so quickly, even then.

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          Maybe because I forgot to say “government” on the end, or because some people think I’m criticizing Palestine resistance.

          It doesn’t matter

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            It’s weird to go so hard on criticizing the Iranian government when it is the one government that has done more than any other to help the Palestinian struggle. Do you think the defenders of Gaza would have even a fraction of the weapons that they do to repel the Zionist invaders if it wasn’t for the Iran-led axis of resistance? Do you think Hezbollah or the Yemenis would be as well armed as they are?

            By comparison the governments of most Arab countries (with Syria being a notable exception for its refusal to capitulate like the others and as a result having had a dirty hybrid war launched against it by the Anglo-Zionists) are outright traitors to the Palestinian cause and to their own people who are overwhelmingly opposed to the shameful collaborationist policies of their governments.

            You don’t need to like the domestic policies of Iran but to not recognize the profound and central role that they play in resisting and reversing the cancerous spread of US imperialism in their region is disingenuous.

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              You are right: I might be totally wrong.

              For what I understood some decades ago Arabic countries were motivating Gazans go against Israel, and when Israel reacted Arabic countries just said “oops, now it’s your problem”.

              I don’t believe that Iran, who kills it’s own people and is on the brink of collapse, really care about Palestinians. They don’t care about their own people.

              Soon Iran will make Palestinians do some suicidal action against israel and when Israel bites back Iran will let them be eaten by the lion.

              I might be wrong and change my opinion after reading for monthes, but for now I have a really bad feeling.

              I feel sad that Palestinians cannot count on anyone, even in those countries who claim to help.

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                Iran, who kills it’s own people and is on the brink of collapse

                They don’t care about their own people.

                I would be really curious to know what kind of media you get your view on Iran from.

                Soon Iran will make Palestinians do some suicidal action against israel

                Iran can’t make Palestinians do anything they don’t want to do. Iran doesn’t control the resistance.

                Iran will let them be eaten by the lion

                Iran has changed a lot since the 1979 Revolution but one thing that hasn’t changed is its policy toward Palestine. There is a lot i could say about Iran but one thing i can’t accuse them of is not sticking to their principles on this issue. It has been a fundamental ideological pillar of the Islamic Revolution.

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                  About where I get my sources:

                  Where I live there are many Iranians and I always ask them about it. All of them I can remember are dead sure that in 5 or 10 years the Iranian population will kick the government out. They are as sure about this as the sky is blue. Very impressive to hear.

                  They say also that since 2022 Iran killed much more people than what the press shows.

                  Iran can’t make Palestinians do anything they don’t want to do. Iran doesn’t control the resistance

                  Inside a Country there’s all types of people. Just arm the ones aligned with what you want and that’s what’s I mean by “Iran will make them do something stupid”.

                  About Iran since 1979: what I know is that ok 1953 US made a coup in Iran and put s dictator there to kill people and take their oil out, but let them dress as they want, and in 1979 Iran got out of the coup. Some people are still killed internally but I don’t know if it’s more or less than what US did there.

                  It can be that I’m biased against Iran and would take me years to research enough and change my opinion, but the core is: If they kill their own people, why should they care about people of other countries?

                  The only answer is if it’s not the people they are protecting, but the sovereignty, then maybe I’d agree with you.

                  Do you have more sources on their history of actions for Palestine?

                  Thank you