• njm1314@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    It is amazing exercise in two-faced dealing that these people can declare Rwanda safe at the exact same time they’re using Rwanda as a threat. It’s totally safe to go too also you better not come here or else we’ll send you there. It’s just fascinating.

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    LOL at the slogan of “Stop the Boats”. Literally copied from the Australian Liberal (conservative) party’s anti-asylum seeker scaremongering catchphrase. Conservatives really lack originality.

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    I don’t know what the solution to the migration crisis is, but I think history will look back on the Rwanda plan very unfavourably.

    While not wishing to conflate genuine refugees with people who are entering the UK illegally, I feel that the hazardous journey people are willing to endure to get here suggests a far worse reality they are leaving. Is it not inhumane to refuse them entry?

    On the other hand, the UK does not have finite resources. Our public services have been whittled away for decades. The NHS is on life support, the Police and social services are hopelessly overwhelmed. Schooling is at breaking point.

    Eorope has no incentive to do anything but just drum migrants though the Calais border, but they pretty much did that anyway before Brexit.

    What is the viable and humane solution?

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      2 months ago

      Address the issue at the source. Find out why these people are willing to risk their lives to leave and try and fix that. At the very least you could create a safe encampment in their home country where they can go to live, receive aid, food, housing etc. Get the UN involved to protect it or something.

      This is kinda the same issue as with arresting homeless people for sleeping rough - it addresses (poorly) the symptom, not the cause.

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          people migrate illegally from everywhere. you’re suggesting the UK should fix what exactly? every undeveloped nation everywhere?

          I mean, not on its own, no, and only those nations from which it’s reciving the bulk of the immigrants. But long term that is the only viable option. As I understand it these are not people who are leaving their country because they particularly want to, they leave because things are so bad at home that literally risking their lives is better than staying. I imagine given the chance they’d prefer to stay at home, so at some point we need to help ensure that’s possible.

          In the mean time a refugee camp of sorts would allow them to remain in their own country and provide suitable housing etc, meaning they wouldn’t have to leave in the first place.

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      You’re right or wrong depending on the country in Eorope. Some countries offered migrants asylum, but the migrants left for UK anyway. UK’s fame is larger than life.

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        It makes a fair bit of sense for someome that already speaks English to want to claim asylum in an English-speaking country, and a lot of people already speak at least some English. They’ve got a far better chance of being able to make a life for themselves if they can already converse with everyone.

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      They’re being paid more than it would cost to house these refugees for life so pretty great I imagine (especially since they’'re not spending any of it on those refugees)