• Łumało [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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    4 months ago

    I’ve seen one comment correcting them, shame it’s just one and one that doesn’t really take a strong stance, but it linked to this comment from CommunismMemes:

    The actual interview, where this excerpt has been taken out of context:

    https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2022/11/28/pope-francis-interview-america-244225

    Or the complete excerpt:

    Matt Malone, S.J.: In the United States, there are those who interpret your criticisms of market capitalism as criticisms of the United States. There are even some who think you may be a socialist, or they call you a communist, or they call you a Marxist. You, of course, have always said you are following the Gospel. But how do you respond to those who say that what the church and you have to say about economics is not important?

    I always ask myself, where does this labeling come from? For example, when we were returning from Ireland on the plane, a letter from an American prelate erupted that said all kinds of things about me. I try to follow the Gospel. I am much enlightened by the Beatitudes, but above all by the standard by which we will be judged: Matthew 25. “I was thirsty, and you gave me a drink. I was in prison, and you visited me. I was sick and you cared for me.” Is Jesus a communist, then? The problem that is behind this, that you have rightly touched on, is the socio-political reduction of the Gospel message. If I see the Gospel in a sociological way only, yes, I am a communist, and so too is Jesus. Behind these Beatitudes and Matthew 25 there is a message that is Jesus’ own. And that is to be Christian. The communists stole some of our Christian values. [Laughter.] Some others, they made a disaster out of them.

    It ought to be pushed more over there.

    • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      4 months ago

      Yeah, obligatory remind that chuds and libertarians will call everyone who is even a milimeter left of them “marxist”, and that includes other chuds and libertarians too. And about deprogram sub, lost cause, the mere mention of the word “religion” puts them in extasy like the moher grandmas. Those people would sell us out in a second on a most bland platitude from a priest.

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      4 months ago

      I think it’s good to draw religious people in and not tell them socialism is only for atheists? Still the full context quote is kinda cringe.

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        4 months ago

        Socialism isn’t only for atheists but marxism leninism is. Not a huge problem because vanguard party membership is by definition not required for everyone, but it needs to be upheld, see how much problems were with people like Bogdanov and Lunacharsky and they weren’t even pope simps just liked to flirt with idealism.