Political illiteracy is required to enjoy MGR:R if you are anything right of anti-capitalist.
The games end theme of non interventionist foreign policy, anti-imperialism, anti-corruption and America being so unhinged they’ll take children’s brains to turn into soldiers to benefit the war economy were what… side plot?
In fact the overt references to American imperialism and cruel foreign policy and anti-humanism are actually just one writers artistic licence and not the games inherent message /s.
The game is in fact a right wing carrion call for further military action /s.
Anyone who thinks this is a right wing game also thinks covid vaccines turns you gay.
It’s neoliberal af but can’t we just have a treat once in a while without angry cis het virgins crying about how HoI4 wasn’t turned into a Netflix original?
The perils of parody. If you do anything that isn’t explicitly, full-throatedly, 100% unequivocally… fuck, who are we kidding? You’d just get some dipshit Randroid insisting this was an allegory for Evil Communism and thank god they put Dan Crenshaw in the game to make sure America wins.
British media killed satire and Saturday night live killed parody.
Like when Tim Pool said Parasite was anti-communist and that he “couldn’t see” how anyone thought otherwise
Dim Tool strikes again.
Exactly
in the same way that there is no such thing as an antiwar movie, there is no such thing as an antichud video game
there is no such thing as an antichud video game
I think some come close, like those “walking simulators” that they foamed with rage about for the last decade.
I wish Death Stranding had more walking and less throwing piss at ghosts
I wish Death Stranding had more walking and less throwing piss at ghosts
That would disappoint @[email protected]
The first bossfight disappointed me so much by its very existence I gave up on the whole experience why are there even bossfights at all in my walking simulator
Chuds get mad at games that either A) have explicit, overt sympathy for socialism (Disco Elysium) or B) focus on the perspective of women, non-white people, LGBTQ people, or all of those at once (Night in the Woods, Life is Strange, Gone Home, etc). Since chuds are largely media illiterate, they mostly get mad at B and merely get confused by A.
The final boss of the game isn’t a nuclear armed walking mecha - it’s a giant piece of mining equipment. I don’t know if you can have a boss fight more thematic that that.
You can if you close your eyes and brain.
The nuclear armed walking mecha was the tutorial boss
I read this comment, and that night I had a dream I was going up a giant mobile dredging machine in an asbestos mine
Political illiteracy is required to enjoy MGR:R if you are anything right of anti-capitalist.
Good thing these right wingers are politically illiterate and media illiterate!
They couldn’t spot fascism if it wore Hugo boss smh
They can’t spot a political message if it’s already comfortable and cozy to them.
When will people stop talking about this culture war nonsense like “neo nazism” that we all know is nonsense politics and focus on the real political issues like pronouns in video games
They want to get back to wholesome nonpolitical historically accurate stories where a grizzled middle aged father figure white man uses lots of violence against dehumanized others to avenge his fridged wife and/or rescue/protect some camera-oogled teenage daughter figure.
Extra points if his daughter died in the opening
I think chud
, whether they’re 15 year olds getting poisoned by 
and Andrew Tate or 50 year old divorce dads getting poisoned by, well, and Andrew Tate, have a hard time even visualizing what a living family that loves them might look like so it has to be postmortem revenge or estranged violence-will-win-them-back edginess.
You bring this up a lot but the only game I can think of that comes close to matching this description is TLOU, and I wouldn’t call that a bad game and I don’t think the narrative is inherently right wing or anything. Obviously chuds did end up loving it because their reaction to TLOU2 shows they were attached to Joel (despite Joel being a morally grey character at best, who was always going to meet the violent end that he did meet. And I think Naughty Dog intended for that so I think much like characters like Walter White they didn’t really write the character to have the hero worship he got.) Also does the camera ogle Ellie in the original? I haven’t actually played the game lmao but I’m not aware of it doing so and it doesnt in the footage I’ve seen. I think perverts that sexualized her just imposed their sexuality on her regardless.
Bioshock Infinite has the daughter figure that gets male gazed, but I dont think she’s underage? And the enemies aren’t dehumanized others really. Its also a mess of a game narratively that both sides racism of course but yaknow.
If there’s other games like that I’m not aware of them. Or I’m forgetting about them.
Not trying to challenge or argue just kind of curious what games you are referring to when you say this.
You bring this up a lot but the only game I can think of that comes close to matching this description
There’s shades of it in Bioshock (no fridged wife, but definitely defend/protect the daughter), Gears of War at the very start (fridged wife is the primary plot motivator), God of War (dead wife as plot motivator at the very start), the Witcher series (adopted daughter figure as a primary motivator and one of the only people the narrative rails don’t punish the player for trying to be nice to them), and its all over the Walking Dead games, the Dishonored series (though the daughter is given more agency and playability as time goes on so I guess there’s that) and it’s in the bones of the Fatal Frame series with some cliche-bending twists (such as playing the daughter figure and the father figure being absent) but in some ways it’s worse there when it comes to overall creepiness, and the above examples are just off the top of my head. There’s more but it’s a blur because I noticed that avenge-dead-wife-and/or-rescue/protect-daughter-figure plot cliche so many times I started rejecting it in advance.
but I dont think she’s underage
Dubiously aged is often the point, where there’s wiggle room to escape controversy while still inviting titillation (anime/manga does this all the time with “she is actually 1000 years old but looks and acts and talks like a child” tactics), especially because that character in Bioshock is both the player protagonist’s daughter and is constantly showing cleavage shots on the promotional material, which makes her age less of a hurdle to cleanly clear when it comes to getting
s off.
carrion call for further military action
carrion call
:chefs-kiss:
Thank you all 🫂
Carry-on call also works
it kind of sounds like he understands but doesn’t care. and i think a leftist could thereby conclude that it was a bad depiction of the right if rightists can get some enjoyment out of it, but i would argue – without totally endorsing the game as a profound political text – that it rightly understands that fascism is a cult of rightful strength frustrated (betrayed, in their telling). given this, there’s no way it wouldn’t appeal to them, unless it told a left triumphalist narrative in which the right is weak, removed, easily defeated, and only propped up by means of deception and schemes, that is, if it told a rightist narrative for leftist ends. Gary the Cryptofascist needs a story where his guy is the strongest, coolest motherfucker on the planet but he still loses, because that’s the only way he can understand his own circumstances.
If nazis and nazi ideology were only presented like a Mel Brooks movie, chuds wouldn’t be able to comfortably absorb or emulate it. Too bad that isn’t really a viable solution across media, especially because of the backlog of what they already absorbed and now emulate.
I like Mel Brooks, I love The Producers, and I love similar movies like Jojo Rabbit, but where would a cyborg ninja come into those? Laughing in their faces is a lot of fun, but eventually you have to start cutting their heads off.
I like Mel Brooks, I love The Producers, and I love similar movies like Jojo Rabbit, but where would a cyborg ninja come into those?
I actually can imagine a cyborg ninja in a Mel Brooks style movie, and I would pay to see that.
Mel Brooks makes the MGS movie. It’s the only way it would fucking slay
I would genuinely enjoy that. It’d be like a sillier version of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgmTsa3rFU0Larry David as Col Campbell. Make it Jewish as fuck, I can see it in my head
Bialli: That Ninja was Grey Fox!
For the highest profit they need to appeal to all the audiences. For profit writing will always choose to make the bad guys as strong and as cool as possible in order to offset the fact that framing them as the bad guys has potential to alienate a part of the potential audience who finds themselves on that side.
You could make them snivelling weasels nobody would like quite easily. But it would be less appealing to part of the audience. The choice to write them as strong and cool is a profit driven one.
I think you would still have strong and cool villains, yes even fascist ones, without profit motive because strong and cool villains are just fun to write. If every villain was a sniveling weasel media wouldn’t be very much fun. I like a good charismatic villain.
And I mean, its also reflective of reality. Some real world “villains” ARE strong/coolaesthetically/charming/charismatic/interesting/complicated/(initially has good motives but goes off the rails with their methods)/havegoodqualitiesaswell ect ect. Its good to have a variety.
You could make them snivelling weasels nobody would like quite easily. But it would be less appealing to part of the audience. The choice to write them as strong and cool is a profit driven one.
Hence why Tolkien wins (in this very narrow thing, the rest is a bit
) Grima Wormtongue is an absolutely detestable low-level villain that nobody thinks is cool, but he’s also the reason Saruman, one of the “cooler” villains, dies, both in the book and in the movies.Gotta throw down a mostly unrelated fact cause I saw Wormtongue mentioned. I’ve seen meme being like "Tolkien, master of language, names a traitorous dude Wormtongue. And yeah, the rohirrim speak ango saxon and worm comes from warm as in dragon and tongue from tong as in sword. He’s Grima dragonsword in universe. The Rohirrim literally speak Anglo Saxon
And yeah, the rohirrim speak ango saxon
Rohan is evil confirmed.
they only kinda-literally speak anglo-saxon, because everything is “translated”
in reality they speak a language related to westron.
but yeah, the translation conceit came later, the rohirrim became what they are cos tolkien went “what if anglo saxons but with horses! wouldnt that be coooooool?”
God Tolkien was such a fucking nerd. I love it.
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O wise, learned anti-Tito anti-Yugo scholar, wouldn’t that make the art indistinguishable from that which it critiques?
I love how in hindsight everything Zizek ever says is just tricking the left into acting more embarrassing. How did we not notice
The curtains are blue
I’ve noticed that when leftists see a sympathetic villain who’s also cartoonishly evil for the sake of plot, the villain will be critiqued to death and ultimately, there’s either critical support or no support for dumb writing.
But conservatives will see a caricature of themselves and have zero reflection and become jealous that there’s no one as evil as that villain in real life for them to support. Like, I know a lot of people on here who enjoyed Death of Stalin despite its liberalism, but I can only imagine conservatives threatening to kill the director of Death of Trump and following through
Thars cause we believe in something and they don’t
I told you all that “Armstrong was right actually” chuds were real! I told you!
Peace Walker has Big Boss compared to Che. Rising is for chuds. MGS is the ultimate centrist game.
That is the go to, the gold standard for what these kind of people think “politics” is. Its hilarious and non-euclidian dusturbing at the same time
Wait, this bad take was had by a Yang Wenli pfp? SMDH what has the LotGH fanbase come to.
That’s like the Trumpies unironically claiming the Empire is the good side and this is anti-Trump propaganda
MGS has bad guys? I just assumed it was an offbrand mecha anime in the shape of a game
IDK if you’re joking, but mecha anime are extremely political.
Also this is the guy they’re talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4JLQQvAx4U
Where’s that Green text about people being idiots who will blindly agree with even the most absurd villains so long as they’re charismatic enough? Ironically, specifically about Armstrong?
why do I keep seeing hexbear trash after blocking all the hexbear trash?
Trash attracts trash
good your mom can make us lasagna.
got somethin more suitable for you cookin up right here:
Hey everybody, this guy didn’t know Armstrong is the bad guy!
