• Nocturne Dragonite@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 months ago

    Can you please tell me how many politicians are imprisoned for their dissent in western democratic countries?

    Which politicians are imprisoned for their dissent in Russia? It’s funny you mention dissent cause the US has no trouble trying to quell dissent when it comes to Israel or its own war crimes and actions overseas.

    Your long tirade about Russia not being exactly how you think it should be is what’s pretty funny honestly, considering in the US, elections never decided by popular vote, laws are passed without our consent via Congress and the Supreme Court, and there are no ways for people to put forward successful changes via voting.

    There is no political freedom, no freedom of speech, no choice, no chance to protest. Say something wrong and go to jail. It’s not an exaggeration, there was at least 3.5k prosecutions for social media posts or sometimes even for likes. The situation with freedom got much worse in last couple of years since the war with Ukraine began.

    I’m sitting here trying to figure out where you’ve been in the last few months where the US had thousands of students arrested for protesting genocide, or how the government is trying to outright ban TikTok for more propaganda reasons that have all been disproven.

    Why do you believe Western propaganda? Is it because it’s comfortable? Is it because it makes you feel more comfortable about living in a “democracy”? Also better yet do you think the conflict in Ukraine just started in 2022? Cause that would explain everything.

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      And UK just recently arrested a journalist covering the Gaza genocide and then they raided and arrested a peace activist. And the EU banned Russian media. And now the US has just gotten Meta to ban a bunch of anti-imperialist channels. And in numerous European countries you can get arrested for supporting Donbass or the Palestinian resistance. And they have frozen bank accounts and threatened to jail journalists for covering what was happening in Donbass. And in Germany Merkel was chancellor for 16 years straight. Also in Germany any non-systemic parties are labeled “threats to the constitution” and put on lists to be watched by state agencies, and anti-war politicians are ruthlessly smeared by the mainstream media in the most grotesque ways. And in the US they blatantly rig primaries and use lawfare to exclude third parties from even being on the ballot. And, and, and…

      The amount of examples one could give of reality not aligning with the idealized picture that liberals have of the West vs the supposed “totalitarian” Russia is endless, but frankly there is no point because factual arguments don’t work against vibes based belief systems. Some people just have to do some growing up first and become a little less naive before they can digest reality.