Go on a thread talking about cost of living or cost of children. Most views there are “if you can’t afford kids don’t have em” without realizing what you guys are actually suggesting. A future where only the rich get to have kids, and the poor are only there to work and die
Cool. Here, let me clarify why I adamantly disagree so that it’s clear it wasn’t my “lack of acceptance” of your evidence as to why I wasn’t swayed.
Eugenics is systemic and requires intent. If individuals make the decision to not have children because the world is hostile towards them doing so, that’s an individual choice. Can’t be eugenics. Hell, even discussing not having children if you can’t afford it still isn’t eugenics.
Now, a world being designed to be hostile towards individuals having children, that could be interpreted as eugenics. But the victims of that system making the choice the system has been made to make them make… yeah, not eugenics. Victims, not perpetrators.
So, like I said, your position is exaggeration to the point of absurdity.
And before it’s brought up, while many people in power are eugenicists (white nationalists, classists, etc) I don’t think the current system is intentionally designed to cut the population. It’s a knock-on effect of letting the wants make policy, rather than making systems to be equitable. They just want to have everything without thinking the ramifications of their decisions all the way through.
Go on a thread talking about cost of living or cost of children. Most views there are “if you can’t afford kids don’t have em” without realizing what you guys are actually suggesting. A future where only the rich get to have kids, and the poor are only there to work and die
So, no. You have exaggerated a position to the point of absurdity. Thanks for clearing that up
As if evidence would sway you
Cool. Here, let me clarify why I adamantly disagree so that it’s clear it wasn’t my “lack of acceptance” of your evidence as to why I wasn’t swayed.
Eugenics is systemic and requires intent. If individuals make the decision to not have children because the world is hostile towards them doing so, that’s an individual choice. Can’t be eugenics. Hell, even discussing not having children if you can’t afford it still isn’t eugenics.
Now, a world being designed to be hostile towards individuals having children, that could be interpreted as eugenics. But the victims of that system making the choice the system has been made to make them make… yeah, not eugenics. Victims, not perpetrators.
So, like I said, your position is exaggeration to the point of absurdity.
And before it’s brought up, while many people in power are eugenicists (white nationalists, classists, etc) I don’t think the current system is intentionally designed to cut the population. It’s a knock-on effect of letting the wants make policy, rather than making systems to be equitable. They just want to have everything without thinking the ramifications of their decisions all the way through.