Hezbollah hits back with rockets as it declares an 'open-ended battle' with Israel

BrikoX@lemmy.zip · 2 months ago

Hezbollah hits back with rockets as it declares an 'open-ended battle' with Israel

Kaboom@reddthat.com · 2 months ago

Here’s what’s going to happen, I’m going to ask for source, you’ll probably grab something from Gaza officials, and I’d point out that Gaza officials are just Hamas, and it’s not credible. In the end, we’d both waste our time.

Do you really want to bother?

Soup@lemmy.world · 2 months ago

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-war-palestinians-statistics-40000-7ebec13101f6d08fe10cedbf5e172dde

I’m someone else and I’m going to do it anyway. We can all see the hospitals and schools being bombed, the bodies in the videos, and even the Israeli government officials saying they don’t give a shit and will do whatever it takes to eradicate everyone in Gaza.

Yea, I do want to bother, and you can go fuck yourself. That’s what you want, correct? To be a massive tool and when someone rightly tells to sit on a stick and rotate you can act superior because you were “polite” while shitting on an the graves of thousands of children. There ya go, my gift to you, dipshit.

bluGill@fedia.io · 2 months ago

We have ample evidence that hamas was using those places for war purposes. They were trying to fool you into thinking they are only hospitals and schools which is what civialized countries do so that civilians are not attacked as colladeral war damage.

Keeponstalin@lemmy.world · 2 months ago

No, there is certainly not ‘ample evidence.’ On the subject of Human Shields, there are some independent reports for past conflicts of Hamas jeopardizing the safety of civilians via Rocket fire in dense urban areas, two instances during Oct 7th, but no independent verification since then so far. None of which absolve Israel of the crime of targeting civilians under international law:

Intentionally utilizing the presence of civilians or other protected persons to render certain areas immune from military attack is prohibited under international law. Amnesty International was not able to establish whether or not the fighters’ presence in the camps was intended to shield themselves from military attacks. However, under international humanitarian law, even if one party uses “human shields”, or is otherwise unlawfully endangering civilians, this does not absolve the opposing party from complying with its obligations to distinguish between military objectives and civilians or civilian objects, to refrain from carrying out indiscriminate or disproportionate attacks, and to take all feasible precautions to spare civilians and civilian objects.

Additionally, there is extensive independent verification of Israel using Palestinians as Human Shields: IDF uses Human Shields, including Children (2013 Report), and in the latest war Israel “Systematically” Uses Gaza Children as Human Shields, Rights Group Finds

catloaf@lemm.ee · 2 months ago

If you think Israeli sources would be more trustworthy, sure, we can do that:

However, Israel’s military has also accepted in briefings that the overall Gaza casualty numbers are broadly reliable.

In May, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said 14,000 Hamas fighters and 16,000 Palestinian civilians had been killed in the war.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-death-toll-how-many-palestinians-has-israels-campaign-killed-2024-07-25/

Keeponstalin@lemmy.world · edit-2 2 months ago

Strange how even the Israeli intelligence service disagree with you

By June 19, 2024, 37,396 people had been killed in the Gaza Strip since the attack by Hamas and the Israeli invasion in October, 2023, according to the Gaza Health Ministry, as reported by the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs. The Ministry’s figures have been contested by the Israeli authorities, although they have been accepted as accurate by Israeli intelligence services, the UN, and WHO. These data are supported by independent analyses, comparing changes in the number of deaths of UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) staff with those reported by the Ministry, which found claims of data fabrication implausible.

In recent conflicts, such indirect deaths range from three to 15 times the number of direct deaths. Applying a conservative estimate of four indirect deaths per one direct death to the 37 396 deaths reported, it is not implausible to estimate that up to 186 000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza. Using the 2022 Gaza Strip population estimate of 2 375 259, this would translate to 7·9% of the total population in the Gaza Strip. A report from Feb 7, 2024, at the time when the direct death toll was 28 000, estimated that without a ceasefire there would be between 58 260 deaths (without an epidemic or escalation) and 85 750 deaths (if both occurred) by Aug 6, 2024

Counting the dead in Gaza: difficult but essential

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 2 months ago

Uh… You do realize that literally everyone uses Gaza Health Ministry numbers and considers them reliable right?

Hezbollah hits back with rockets as it declares an 'open-ended battle' with Israel

Hezbollah hits back with rockets as it declares an 'open-ended battle' with Israel

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