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        2 months ago

        Idk when Israel came into existence by destroying Palestine, they definitely started a lot. All of the problems? No but they started a lot.

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          Palestine has never existed as a state. It was supposed to be created for the first time alongside the state of Israel in 1948, but the Arabs rejected the UN transition plan and went to war against the newly formed Israel instead of accepting independence.

          Please learn a little history before commenting on it.

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            You’re so full of shit. Palestine was a real place that real people lived in for countless years. They were ripped from their homes while being killed and raped in order to make a new home of israel. I took a class on this so dont act like im not informed while you spew propaganda out your fingers.

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                2 months ago

                Sorry to inform you but ive never even used tik tok. I know i know, im old, 33, but, whatever.

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              If Palestine was a country, what date was it founded? What was the system of government? Who was the first head of state? Who was the most recent head of state prior to 1948?

              You may need to check your notes from the one class you took.

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                  Quite the stretch. Palestine was a region of the British Empire, prior to that a region of the Ottoman Empire, and so on. The region was always part of an established state going all the way back to the Kingdom of Israel in the 10th century BCE.

                  The existence of a unique Palestinian national identity emerged probably in the 20th century. Possibly 19th.

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                I wish i paid for the ultrea version of my app of choice just so i could group you into the malicious dumb fuck section. You dont believe of what you say, you simply parrot russian talking points.

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                  So 1 - support app developers. Just get it. 2- Russia is ridiculously pro-Palestinian, pro-Iran, Anti-Israel, so I think that’s a pretty wide swing and a miss. Slava Ukraini. 3 - it’s not a matter of belief, it is simply a fact that before Israel was established, Palestine was a region of the British mandate, prior to that it was a region of the Ottoman Empire, and so on from one empire to another all the way back to the time of the the Jewish Kingdom of Solomon.

                  In the early 20th Century, Palestine was a mix of Jewish, Arab, Druze, Bedoin, etc. Jewish Palestinians and Arab Palestinians were the two largest population groups, both of whom helped the Allies in WWI. Both were acknowledged as having a natural right to establish a state in their native land. The British eventually determined that the UN was in the best position to negotiate and define the borders, which they did. The Jews accepted the borders and declared their State, the Arabs did not. Rather, they launched a military campaign against the State of Israel. Portions of what would have been the State of Palestine were captured by Egypt, Jordan, and Israel.

                  Please research all of these statements. They are not my personal beliefs or opinions. They are uncontroversial facts.

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    I sincerely hope Harris will change her tune after she is elected. Supporting war criminals is shameful.

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      If only the president’s position was not just a mockup in the hands of the establishment…

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        What are you talking about?

        Netanyahu, known war criminal, currently under investigation, with an arrest warrant in the pipeline.

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    A terrorist shithead terrorising the civilians of a corrupt and genocidal regime is still a terrorist shithead. Good ridance.

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    There is no depth to which Joe Biden will not sink to prop up, arm, cover for, pay, or deflect accountability from Israel. He is a zealot, devoted to a racist, un-democratic state and its culture of ethnic purity and regional domination. He is a monster who would be undeserving of his role as president, if the country he presided over wasn’t itself a violent, racist stain on humanity. Harris should be given an opportunity to course correct, but we all know that she won’t. She has no actual ideology other than self promotion. Her party has been captured monetarily by the Israeli lobby, as has most of congress. Despite a lot of flowery rhetoric, the only consistent US principle is a willingness to ignore US principles if there is profit or power to be had. As a US citizen, I hope our allies realize how duplicitous we are, and how shallow our calls for unity, peace and order are. The US should not be trusted, and our demon child Israel should never, ever be legitimized as anything other than the cancer it keeps choosing to be.