• Sarmyth@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    All the other elections every year. The party pays attention to the local and state elections. It matters tremendously. And in the mean time you are improving your local government that effects your everyday life.

    Voting 3rd in the presidential election is a waste if the party hasn’t spent any time building support in existing government structures of power though.

    Does a third party have some special avenue around an obstructionist house and senate that we all haven’t seen so far?

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      2 months ago

      People can vote for the candidates they like locally even if they don’t like the top of the ticket. I didn’t say anything about down ballot elections.

      And you still don’t have any answer for my question.

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        2 months ago

        No… THAT is my answer. You asked what would prevent the Dems from sliding right and that was my answer. It’s the same thing that caused the Republicans to slide right.

        You have the example in the Tea party movement to see how it effectively changes the party when down ballot voting shifts.

        That’s how it’s done. There’s recent proof of it.

        PS: You didn’t answer MY question.

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          Nobody said that a third party would win the presidency, so that’s a weird question. The answer is no, but you already knew that.

          The tea party is a great example of Republicans listening to their base. Democrats should do the same. I don’t see anyone telling the far right they HAVE to vote for Republicans even if they run a liberal candidate. Democrats don’t own the votes of the Left either.

          Voting for progressives down ballot is not a real way to influence the party, and I don’t believe you really think it is. Also, like I said, many progressives do that.

          It’s just another line from the DNC to tell the progressives to shut up. When Dems start treating progressives like Republicans treat MAGA (worship, adoration, and fear) then you can expect that progressives will vote for Dems at the top of the ticket.

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            2 months ago

            So you are knowingly throwing your vote away then. Ok. If your voice matters so little, no need to engage on a forum. Look in the mirror and ask what the point of wasting your moments literally telling everyone you don’t value your own vote.

            Worthless…

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                2 months ago

                Pathetic. You can’t even see that’s exactly what you’re doing even after so many examples. We’ve seen this play out before.

                You don’t exist in a country with a voting system where abstaining from participating in the 2 party system makes you not culpable for the outcome when 1 party has vocalized their intent for violence.

                “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”