• halyk.the.red@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    I don’t understand it, either. I’ve seen comics and comments about how not voting for a genocidal candidate might get trans people killed, while children are actively being blown apart and incinerated in hospital beds, currently, as we type.

    I don’t like that trans people have to live in fear. I would like them to be as comfortable in their communities as the whitest, straightest, most christian dude in Texas is in his community.

    Any argument for or against the current candidates that is laced with hyperbolic slippery slopes cannot overcome the actual murdering of an entire people that’s unfolding in front of us all.

    I cannot buy into any argument that plays on the lesser of two evils, as we would still have to choose an evil.

    Let’s be clear that this isn’t an easy world we live in, but I refuse to support a literal ethnic purge.

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      …dude you’re writing off a genocide against me with “some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make” shit

      You are actively advocating for people to be complicit in not preventing another genocide.

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        Has it happened? Are trans actively being bombed in their hospital beds? Are they being piled in the streets and run over with bulldozers, dead and alive?

        To claim that trans are the victims of genocide is disingenuous and minimizes the experience of the people currently experiencing genocide.

        I am not discounting the potential threat against trans in america, but Palestinians are being shot, burned, and bombed right now. Entire families, gone.

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          Have you listened to a single fucking thing the right has been nearly shouting from the rooftops that they’re going to do? Have you read Project 2025? Or are you just willfully ignorant, just tuning out whenever they start talking about things that won’t affect you personally?

          Oh and hey let’s not forget a national abortion ban, mass deportations, and an almost certain recession if not depression. Those are also on the table with a second Trump term, which fucksticks like you are helping ensure.

          With all respect to Palestinians and their plight, we need to worry about our country and the possible fall of our democracy before we can start fixing the problems on the other side of the fucking globe. Problems which, under Trump, would only get worse. If you genuinely think he won’t give Israel carte blanche to flatten Palestine, you’re dumber than I thought. Oh, and if you think that genocide is bad, wait til he gives Russia Ukraine on a silver platter. Ever heard of the Holodomor?

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            If the highly publicized project 2025 and constant rhetoric is all you’re going off of, you’re not paying close enough attention. The right is propping up a dementia patient like it’s Weekend At Bernie’s, and they’re doing well.

            Trump is backed by some of the world’s richest people, and a super power that is known for propaganda and disinformation. If you can’t tell which way the pendulum is swinging, it’s not my intelligence that should be called into question.

            The right learned from their mistakes when they tried to rig the last election, and they’ve been putting in the work. I don’t know if it’s naïvitè or arrogance to believe that you putting a check in a blue box is going to stop the storm that is coming. If you’re waiting for November to see if you’re going to be safe, you are well behind the curve.

            All that bad stuff you mentioned is going to happen, they’ve stacked the deck and they’re counting cards. This democracy is already done, you just don’t see it yet.

            At the end of the day, all you have control over is what you support, and apparently you’re cool with supporting genocide. I’d like to be able to live with myself and not support an ethnic purge. You’re going to come up with all these reasons why you’re fine with selling Palestinians up the river, and still lose.

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              you know, being you’re a .ml user, I did, in fact, expect that you would respond with something stupid

              you’re supporting a genocide so I’m going to throw away my vote and help make sure that genocide gets worse + a genocide of “undesirables” occurs at home + a brand new Holodomor starts!

              … but you’ve actually exceeded my expectations in every metric, so have this: 🤡

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                It’s all good, I’d rather be a clown than rely on ad hominem to shore up the ridiculous position of defending genocide.