• Pips@lemmy.sdf.org
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      12 hours ago

      Whereas, and forgive me if I’m mistakenly assuming you’re advocating not voting for Harris, your worldview is just defeating. Every candidate but Harris will ensure that Palestinian suffering increases. Not voting will deny Harris a vote, therefore necessarily increase the odds of someone else winning and Palestinian suffering increasing. Palestinians are saying to vote for Harris. Votjng for a third party (all choices there, by the way, either actively endorse Trump (RFK Jr.) or are funded by Russia (Stein) so supports the genocide of Ukrainians) remove a vote for Harris and increase the odds of Palestinian suffering increasing. There is no scenario where if you’re an American citizen you can be a neutral bystander.

      At this point, if you don’t vote for Harris, you’re voting for ethnic cleansing and genocide, quite possibly at home as well as abroad.

      • sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world
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        Every candidate but Harris will ensure that Palestinian suffering increases.

        Harris has not said anything concrete about holding Israel back. Or stopping shipments.

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          Except she absolutely has.

          She’s called for the investigations needed to legally stop the funding.

          Because there’s a full legal process that needs to happen to overrule Congress on allocated funding.

          Trump was impeached over fucking with funds allocated by Congress to a foreign government.

          A Harris win means a push for a cease fire. Especially if Democrats win the House and Senate.

          A Trump win on the other hand… Well. He’s actually on record as pro-genocide.

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      I’m torn on how to approach this, i’m left with a couple of options:

      A) so Trump would somehow be even less self defeating?

      B) are you suggesting we should all spontaneously rise up and overthrow the military industrial complex?

      C) if you think this world view is self defeating then:

      C.1) you owe some clarifying thoughts as to how you see a measured response to the existing democratic systems as self defeating

      C.2) you appear to be making yourself out as someone who idealizes violence and oppression

      C.3) you appear to be using contrarian language with the explicit purpose of dragging down the mood of the conversation. Quit that shit