• humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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    9 hours ago

    Pro war people do it for love apparently, despite oligarchy profiting extensively and able to pour some trickle down on you, but no one can ever be against the human suffering and economic destruction, just at home, caused by warmongering evil without being paid to not support the demonism.

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      The United States is fucked up and run by the rich and corporations, that much is obvious to anyone who didn’t buy into the “American Dream” lies they try to feed us. But, that’s irrelvant to the discussion about Ukraine’s existence as a country independent from Russia.

      Last I checked, Russia invaded Ukraine and started this whole ordeal. Why should Ukraine be obligated to roll over like a dog, hand over their land and autonomy, and thank their attackers for not subjugating them further? Aren’t you against colonialism?

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        Last I checked, Russia invaded Ukraine and started this whole ordeal.

        That is disinformation. Similar process to history starting 9/11 or 10/7. Ukraine as a US puppet 100% provoked war. There were extremely simple/reasonable red lines made to avoid the war. 1-2 weeks into operation, a peace deal was agreed, that resulted in troop withdrawal from Kyiv. Acknowledging the obviousness of Russia’s terms and reasonableness. It is only pure demonic US evil that started and perpetuates this war.