An Israeli military spokesperson confirmed that there were “hostage situations” in the southern city of Ofakim and the nearby kibbutz of Beeri.

Hamas said it had taken “dozens” of Israeli soldiers hostage and moved them to the Gaza Strip as footage emerged appearing to show gunmen in military fatigues leading a group of mostly barefoot women down a street in Israel.

The announcement and video verified by NBC News came hours after Hamas launched a deadly land, air and sea attack and fired a huge barrage of rockets at Israel.

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    I believe my people have a claim to the land of Israel because our ancestors live there—we didn’t live there because God says though, we lived there because we actually lived there, and there is no shortage of evidence in this matter, there is no room for doubt—and because my people have a right to self-determination in their homeland, as all other people everywhere do, and because my people have been ostracized and oppressed and killed in every other place we’ve attempted to make our homes in, and because our safety is not conditioned on your approval.

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      “our safety is not conditioned on your approval”

      For sure You have the world’s biggest powers fighting your corner to oppress and genocide week people. the people who own that land are the people you found living there. going back thousands of years to legitimize stealing other people’s land doesn’t register with people who still have some brain cells. only the religiously brainwashed or heavily propagandized can justify the existence of a theocratic state called Israel

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        There have been Jews living there through those thousands of years, but if you’re referring to the immigration of the late 1800s and early 1900s, most of the land was unsettled, there weren’t many people living there at all. As we began to settle the British colony, Turks, Syrians, Jordanians, and other Arabs started to move there. They absolutely do not have more claim to the land than we do.

        This would not justify genocide, which is why we are not engaged in genocide.

        Israel is the only place we feel safe. We are still not interested in your opinions on our safety.

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          but if you’re referring to the immigration of the late 1800s and early 1900s, most of the land was unsettled, there weren’t many people living there at all. As we began to settle the British colony

          Are you for real. Fabricating Lies as in “Palestine being an empty land” to justify your’s and the British stealing other people Land. you deserve no sympathy or security from me. but I otherwise respect other jews living around who don’t agree with settlers claims.

          Colonialism must die wherever it is in the world, starting by Israel.

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            The British took the colony from the Ottoman Turks—not from any people.

            There were Arabs / Muslims in Palestine in the 1800s, but they were mostly centered in a few areas, and very many were there temporarily—making pilgrimage, there on business, etc. Early Zionists settled areas that were yet unsettled, most obviously areas near Jaffa that became Tel Aviv, but also in many rural parts of the country.

            Fun fact, the current population of Palestine is about fifteen times what it was (in the entire region) in the 1800s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region). There is no timeline on which their population went down.

            I did not ask you for security. I’m more than satisfied for Israel to defend itself. Your continued attempts to demonize us for doing so are quite sad.