Is there any veracity to the claim that “the PSL covered up SA allegations”? I hear it a lot in discussions surrounding the PSL. I wanna know if this is a valid concern

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    I massively disagree with you here, but I’m letting my emotions run heavy.

    What I was trying to communicate with responding to this thread (edit: I mean like to the post originally /) is “yes, some people have (potential credibly) accused PSL of shielding abusers. There are only a few cases over the years.”.

    This shit is so old and so chewed over that we should be able to just acknowledge it and move forward. CPUSA has massive structural problems, and we’re able to acknowledge those and still support the comrades who choose to work with them.

    I understand that you feel like the election aspect is important, but I just can’t care. They’re going to, maybe, pick up a few thousand votes. I thought the point of the electoralism was the pr leading up to the election? Who cares about the 5 votes that might be swayed by this?

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      but I’m letting my emotions run heavy.

      Which is exactly the problem with this post on this day and my entire point. Thanks for making it for me again.

      It doesn’t matter the scale. What matters is the problem it causes. If they dissuade 10,000 people and swing a state for Kamala is it a problem then? When is it a problem? The fact is we’re not going to win. But the fact is the point isn’t to win but to do enough damage to the major parties that people take notice and look into it. PSL volunteers sweated hard getting signatures to get on the ballot in so many states and you’re just saying their effort was wasted. That it doesn’t matter. That it’s okay to throw it away. Anyways to my point, any suppression of support, especially on a platform like this on a day like today is not okay. It attacks the work of those people.

      Also PSL is nowhere near the issues of CPUSA. One that regularly tails Democrats and embraces lesser evilism. On a theoretical basis CPUSA is not even in the running to be a vanguard or a party people can look to given its national leadership. I don’t care for arguments about oh local branches this or that, I’ve seen the same thing with DSA and the fact is national has too much power for that to ever really matter.

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        Losing, potentially, 5 votes isn’t wasting their efforts. I don’t really agree that the push for a presidential candidate is particularly worthwhile, but it’s not really my business. I’m glad I had the option to vote for PSL, but voting for president in the U$ isn’t a meaningful action.

        Also PSL is nowhere near the issues of CPUSA which is a compromised party. One that regularly tails Democrats and embraces lesser evilism. On a theoretical basis CPUSA is not even in the running to be a vanguard or a party people can look to given its national leadership. I don’t care for arguments about oh local branches this or that, I’ve seen the same thing with DSA and the fact is national has too much power for that to ever really matter.

        That’s kind of my point. CPUSA is way worse, but we’re still able to acknowledge that they have issues and accept that some people here work with them.