• jagged_circle@feddit.nl
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    23 percent of respondents said Hitler was a “good person or an equally good and bad person” or “a bad person who did some good things,” data from YouGov showed.

    What a bullshit poll. So basically anyone who recognizes he cared for a dog is seen as liking Hitler.

    Anyone who said otherwise doesn’t understand spectrums and is generally using black and white thinking, a sign of mental illness

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    He wasn’t “all bad”, he apparently was very good with animals, like his dog Blondie. He was a vegetarian. And that’s probably everything which wasn’t bad. For the rest it’s all completely fucked up bad. No doubt about it.

    Oh and I just remembered he was very good at giving directions. “were do I need to go?” “Take the third reich”

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      I don’t think he was vegetarian for animals. He did it for his health. Something Stallen should have done.

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        I thought I heard it was because of his love for animals. I googled and found This wiki page about it. TL:DR is it’s not completely clear whether it’s because of health reasons or because he’s against animal abuse.

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    Sure, Hitler passed some of the first anti-smoking laws.

    That doesn’t excuse all the other awful awful things he did.

    Also his anti smoking laws failed as the war went on longer and longer.

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    And I’m guessing none of those Americans have had relatives who were actually living during WWII.

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      7 hours ago

      Reminds me of this great street art I saw posted at some point. Can’t find the source though.

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      I will do you one better. There are people thinking Stalin was not all that bad.

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        I’ll up arrow you for being brave

        People say the same about Mao and Hideki Tojo

        For USSR we are Lenin Trotsky supporters here

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    Kind of a loaded question to include the word “all” but I understand the lack of faith or respect for the USA right about now.

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    Obviously, Hitler even gave credit to Jim Crow policies as being an inspiration for his generic policies.

    The dixiecrats aren’t ashamed of that, game recognizes game.

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    Related: we’ve all heard the stories of a time traveler going back to kill Hitler before his rise to power. One common theme in almost all those stories is that the attempt fails, that’s why history is as we remember. This morning has me thinking that maybe time travel was involved in a couple of Trump assassination attempts.

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    That’s not fair phrasing and will lead to high numbers.

    Hitler wasn’t “all” bad technically, he was just so bad that the good shouldn’t matter at all. Pushing forward technology (VW Beetle, Autobahn) should is no way be justified by genocide (obviously).

    A better question would have been something like “do you like Hitler overall?”

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      The full poll data: https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/Views_on_Hitler_poll_results.pdf

      Do you think of Adolf Hitler as. . . ?

      • A completely good person: 1%
      • A good person who did some bad things: 4%
      • An equally good and bad person: 7%
      • A bad person who did some good things: 12%
      • A completely bad person : 65%
      • Not sure : 12%

      So 12% felt he was at least as good as he was bad, 12% fell into the 'well, even a horrible person can do something right, and 12% were somehow not sure…

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        This is interesting, thank you for sharing.

        I personally would tally this up as “12%” rather than “24%”.

        Or at least in my opinion, option “D” (bad person that did some good things) is most likely the closest to an objective answer and “E” (completely bad) is a totally acceptable summary. But both D and E both summarize Hitler as bad. The people summarizing him as “balanced” or “good” totaled to 12%.

        To be clear, this is still horrific imo.

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          and 12% not sure aka couldn’t really make up their mind if Hitler was bad or not… so ads up to 24%

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            That’s fair, but we don’t know why they said they weren’t sure. Could be educational issues, memory issues, etc.

            Not a good look either way. Wild to me that number is so high.

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      Yes a question about Hitler being good overall is far better. Attempting to shove him into an all bad category is just dishonest and allows opponents a free win. The good absolutely should matter, because painting people as all one thing isn’t accurate and makes understanding how things happen more difficult.