• Moneo@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    You’re doing the exact same thing. You are refusing to acknowledge any criticism to the Harris campaign and blaming voters for the loss.

    Misogyny absolutely played a role in this election and I do not want to downplay the racism and misogyny that Harris had to work against, but she ran a fucking awful campaign. She sucked up to fascists, ignored her base, and belittled the concerns pro-palestine protestors.

    I’m speaking now.

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      16 days ago

      Saying she ran an awful campaign is a judgement, one neither of us qualified to make legitimately (correct me if I’m wrong and you have some relevant professional experience)

      The voters spoke and said they did not see enough of a difference between Harris and Trump to vote for Harris, and the ones that saw a difference voted for Trump.

      Harris was out there making her platform and politics known, performing at debates.

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        13 days ago

        Saying she ran an awful campaign is a judgement

        I mean yeah but if this is your mindset then why are you on the internet talking about politics? Am I supposed to meekly say, “Democrats tried their best but it just didn’t work out!”.

        No I’m not an expert but I followed this election cycle quite closely and I listened to experienced commentators and weighed their opinions on the matter.

        The average american is worse off than they have been in a long time and Harris did not adequately address that. She campaigned on securing the border and continuing to support a genocide. She didn’t promise to take on corporate greed, or to tax billionaires, or to make sure all americans have access to healthcare. She didn’t give voters anything to get excited about. Her campaign was laser focused on telling voters that Trump is bad and that they should vote for her.

        Many people, myself included, think that was a terrible strategy. The election results seem evidence enough for me but apparently some people think election results are not a good indicator of whether or not someone ran a good campaign.

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          12 days ago

          If you’re saying she didn’t give people anything to be excited about, and she focused ‘Trump is bad’ then you imho did not follow the election, you followed social media and click bait.

          Her platform was there, it was a great direction for this country to make us stronger, happier and represent the better aspects of American voters. I was very excited for it.

          And personally, I didn’t like her much at first, nor would I say she is ideal. But there are 3 choices: Harris, Trump, everything is fine. I was definitely excited to pick Harris with those being the only three options.

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            11 days ago

            Dude I was locked in to the election for months, you’re blowing smoke out of your ass.

            Go watch Jon Stewarts election recap. He has a montage of democrats saying shit like you would expect republicans to say.

            She ran on having a lethal military, a secure border, and $50k for small businesses. But by all means show me receipts of her progressive campaign and I will happily concede my point.

            It’s really interesting to me that you didn’t list a single one of her policies.

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              11 days ago

              I apologize, but I don’t believe you are open minded. I mostly replied so that a third party would not see such blame as you were making an unopposed statement and believe that is a representative perspective.

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                7 days ago

                K cool. You’ve made an assertion, listed absolutely nothing to back up what you’re saying, then called me closed minded for not sharing your opinion.

                I’m far from the only person to have this opinion, and far from the most qualified. But if you prefer to stick your fingers in your ears and call anyone who disagrees with you closed minded by all means continue.