• Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    Abandon the working class?

    unions declining to endorse a Democratic presidential candidate.

    Unpopular candidate?

    15m less Democrats voted.

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      16 days ago

      Eh I don’t think those 15 mil were dems anyway. Maybe ultra progressive with higher standards than what the dems have to offer.

      Historical speaking Harris got standard dem numbers. No one ever got numbers like Biden.

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      16 days ago

      Which was purely political nonsense from the unions. And now a guy who held oligarchic union busting up as a good thing is in power.

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        15 days ago

        It not purely political nonsense. It reflects the voter base.

        The real problem is that people (like you) dismiss the workers opinion’s as “political nonsense” and subsequently lose elections.

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          15 days ago

          I’m dismissing union leadership decisions as nonsense, not the workers’ issues. We actually had something similar happen in my city with this election. City needed a debt override to be popularly voted in to finance construction of a much needed new fire department HQ, but the firefighter union (and really all unions) have a terrible relationship with the mayor so they campaigned AGAINST it. It failed. Now they won’t get the new HQ unless they fire a bunch of firefighters or, i dunno, have a wicked successful bake sale or some shit. It was literally in no one’s best interest for the ballot question to fail but pure political shitassery made them campaign against their own and everyone’s interests even when significant time and even money was spent explaining in excruciating detail why there was no other choice than the debt override for it to happen.

          You can only do so much to explain things to people before the burden falls on them to (a) listen in good faith, and (b) try to not be dumbshits.