Wave of violence targeting Israeli soccer fans followed calls to hunt them down on popular messaging apps

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    On Wednesday, fans of all three teams were involved in what police described as small clashes. Maccabi supporters pulled a Palestinian flag from a building and vandalized a taxi, police said. In another part of the city, a Palestinian flag was burned.
    Videos circulated on social media of Maccabi fans chanting anti-Arab and anti-Palestinian slogans. One clip verified by Storyful showed crowds of Maccabi fans descending a metro station escalator and chanting in Hebrew, “Let the IDF win. F— the Arabs!” in a reference to the Israel Defense Forces.
    Another video, also verified by Storyful, showed people removing a Palestinian flag as a crowd cheered and chanted: “F— you Palestine.” Storyful is owned by News Corp, the parent company of The Wall Street Journal.
    Jazie Veldhuyzen, an Amsterdam city council member, said his party disputed the narrative that pro-Palestinian sentiment was what drove the unrest, citing the videos of Maccabi fans chanting about the war. “The unrest that followed was a reaction to this,” he said.

    The Maccabi supporters are not the victims here. They are the aggressors.

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      You’ve missed the thread. It’s clear now that the ones doing the violence and assaulting people were not looking for the hooligans who were being offensive. They were just looking for any Jews they could find.

      You wouldn’t defend this for any group of people other than Jews.

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        Ripping a Palestinian flag down while shouting to kill all Arabs isn’t someone “being offensive,” it’s doing violence. It’s no surprise that violence was met with more.

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          Once again, you’ve missed the thread as well. The people doing the violence were not trying to find those specific people. They were hunting any Jews they could find.

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            I have no idea what the article says, because it’s paywalled. All I can read is that someone with a group of Israeli soccer fans was attacked.

            This is not surprising, as Jewish soccer fans were chanted for the death of Arabs and violently ripped down other peoples property, which you called “being offensive.”

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            But they weren’t attacking them for their religion right? So then it’s not antisemitism? /s

            Scary to see this kind of propaganda on Lemmy extend to the real world. People hunting various Jews in the streets and those actions get a pass from users here.

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        I think that is a bit disingenuous. They apparently asked for passports to find Israelis not just any Jews. As deplorable as this still is, it’s different from “any Jews”.

        Also: If russian hools started to openly endorse the war against Ukraine in a region where a lot of Ukrainian refugees are located I would absolutely advise caution for every russian visitor in that region no matter their stance and especially if they want to express their fandom to the same football team as those hools.

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        I don’t get how it is so hard for people to admit that some number of the “Pro Palestine” people are motivated by antisemitism just the same way Hamas is. Not everyone, but some, and the rest turn a blind eye to it.

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    "The first incidents were reported on Wednesday evening, the day before the match. Police say Maccabi fans tore a Palestinian flag down from the facade of a building and burned it, shouted “fuck you Palestine”, and vandalised a taxi.

    After a radio callout a number of taxi drivers converged on a casino on the nearby Max Euweplein, where about 400 Israeli supporters had gathered. Police dispersed the taxi drivers and escorted supporters out of the casino.

    Verified social media videos show Maccabi fans setting off flares and fireworks, chanting in Hebrew “olé, olé, let the IDF [Israel Defense Forces] win, we will fuck the Arabs”, and declaring that there were “no children” left in Gaza. "

    Source https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/11/what-happened-amsterdam-israeli-football-fans

    Take your fucking IDF supporting terrorists home.

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      That is deplorable, and also in no way justifies the antisemitic violence that the mobs coordinated against all Jews they could find, whether they were involved with the activities you mention or not.

      Two things can be bad.