I fail to see any logic with anyone interviewed. They knew things would be worse for Palestine and Lebanon with the donvict, they know they personally may face hardship as a consequence of the election. They know they were duped.
But they wanted to punish Democrats and Harris particularly. Does that satisfaction make the rest of the shit sandwich taste good?
The logic is that it’s simply a shit campaign strategy to run on a message of, “yes, I will abet genocide, but my opponent will abet it even harder!”
It’s just a zero-IQ, complete brain death of a strategy. The Democratic party is meant to appeal to people who care about others, who want to do what they can to make a positive difference in this world. And Kamala’s brilliant plan was to appeal to those bleeding hearts with a message of, “yes, I’m fine with genocide, but the genocide will go even faster if my opponent is elected!”?
What dirt-fucking moron thought that was a good idea?
The Democratic party is meant to appeal to people who care about others
That hasn’t been true since Clinton and the blue dogs. They became what Republicans used to be over the last 30 years. It has been said many times, but there simply isn’t a viable left wing/worker’s party in the US. Other countries have labor and social democrat parties for that.
They used to be a hell of a lot more radical. The “new deal” was originally planned to go a hell of a lot further with social policies. We could have had taxpayer-funded healthcare in the 1940s.
What dirt-fucking moron thought “I’m against genocide, so I’m going to make the genocide go faster! That’ll show 'em!” was a good idea? You don’t tell someone not to shoot you in the foot by telling them to shoot you in the head instead.
Because at some point it becomes a distinction without a difference. At some point you’re sitting there deciding between Hitler or Mussolini. Mussolini might objectively be the better choice, as his crimes are fewer than Hitler’s by pure magnitude. But given that choice, a lot of people will just refuse to participate.
People don’t vote based on pure logic. That’s not how human beings operate. Don’t make your voters feel like they need to go to confess their sins to a priest after voting for your candidate, and maybe then you won’t have people refusing to vote for them.
As the song goes, “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.” If you sat out knowing full well that doing so is a de-facto vote for Trump, you still chose to sit out. That means you still chose to make things actively worse. And you made that choice knowing that it would make things actively worse for them and for you.
Your choices have consequences. Your choice will make things worse for yourself and the people you claim to be standing up for. And you made your choice knowing that doing so would make things worse. You share in the responsibility for that, and all the cognitive dissonance in the world may make you sleep slightly better at night, but it doesn’t change that fact. Congratulations. You sent the Democrats a message to put up a “better” candidate in 2028. I’m sure that the few million Palenstinians that will be either displaced or outright killed between now and then will be grateful for that.
I voted for Harris. I support Gaza, and I know that Harris would not have likely done very much to help them. But I do not believe that the answer to that problem was to send someone in who’s plan is to kill them faster while fucking over a shit-ton of other people in the process.
And I get it. It’s a classic example of Sophie’s choice. I don’t particularly like the “Hitler/Musollini” bit but let’s just say “Killer A” and “Killer B”. I get it; No matter which one you choose, you’re dead either way so why does it matter? Totally get it. But that wasn’t what was here. It was “Killer A saying you may die in six months” vs. “Killer B is going to kill you tomorrow.” See the difference? A lot of people would likely want to live another six months, if only to hold onto the hope that they’ll find a way out in the interim.
Instead, they voted for a guy who wants to send missiles over there like it’s the 4th of July.
I have a hard time blaming the voters for anything when they live in the most heavily propagandized country on the planet. Ultimately the voters opinions don’t matter when they can be shaped by billions of dollars in ads and media time.
It’s not too dissimilar from how a Trump voter thinks in my opinion. Alot of them know they’re getting fucked but just want someone they hate to get fucked a little harder and they’re happy.
TBH I just want the dems to stop supporting genocide. Since the dems aren’t motivated by empathy or principle but by self-interested politricks, I’m hoping that a trump-led genocide will motivate the dems to stop genociding people.
Y’all nostradamuses keep saying it’s going to get worse while genocide joe never ceases genociding. It’ll probably be the same like it’s been for the past 75+ years.
I fail to see any logic with anyone interviewed. They knew things would be worse for Palestine and Lebanon with the donvict, they know they personally may face hardship as a consequence of the election. They know they were duped.
But they wanted to punish Democrats and Harris particularly. Does that satisfaction make the rest of the shit sandwich taste good?
It doesn’t, but they won’t admit it. Spite is a powerful driver for self-delusion and denial.
Now if you’ll excuse me, all this talk has made me hungry
The logic is that it’s simply a shit campaign strategy to run on a message of, “yes, I will abet genocide, but my opponent will abet it even harder!”
It’s just a zero-IQ, complete brain death of a strategy. The Democratic party is meant to appeal to people who care about others, who want to do what they can to make a positive difference in this world. And Kamala’s brilliant plan was to appeal to those bleeding hearts with a message of, “yes, I’m fine with genocide, but the genocide will go even faster if my opponent is elected!”?
What dirt-fucking moron thought that was a good idea?
That hasn’t been true since Clinton and the blue dogs. They became what Republicans used to be over the last 30 years. It has been said many times, but there simply isn’t a viable left wing/worker’s party in the US. Other countries have labor and social democrat parties for that.
They used to be a hell of a lot more radical. The “new deal” was originally planned to go a hell of a lot further with social policies. We could have had taxpayer-funded healthcare in the 1940s.
What dirt-fucking moron thought “I’m against genocide, so I’m going to make the genocide go faster! That’ll show 'em!” was a good idea? You don’t tell someone not to shoot you in the foot by telling them to shoot you in the head instead.
Because at some point it becomes a distinction without a difference. At some point you’re sitting there deciding between Hitler or Mussolini. Mussolini might objectively be the better choice, as his crimes are fewer than Hitler’s by pure magnitude. But given that choice, a lot of people will just refuse to participate.
People don’t vote based on pure logic. That’s not how human beings operate. Don’t make your voters feel like they need to go to confess their sins to a priest after voting for your candidate, and maybe then you won’t have people refusing to vote for them.
As the song goes, “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.” If you sat out knowing full well that doing so is a de-facto vote for Trump, you still chose to sit out. That means you still chose to make things actively worse. And you made that choice knowing that it would make things actively worse for them and for you.
Your choices have consequences. Your choice will make things worse for yourself and the people you claim to be standing up for. And you made your choice knowing that doing so would make things worse. You share in the responsibility for that, and all the cognitive dissonance in the world may make you sleep slightly better at night, but it doesn’t change that fact. Congratulations. You sent the Democrats a message to put up a “better” candidate in 2028. I’m sure that the few million Palenstinians that will be either displaced or outright killed between now and then will be grateful for that.
I voted for Harris. I support Gaza, and I know that Harris would not have likely done very much to help them. But I do not believe that the answer to that problem was to send someone in who’s plan is to kill them faster while fucking over a shit-ton of other people in the process.
And I get it. It’s a classic example of Sophie’s choice. I don’t particularly like the “Hitler/Musollini” bit but let’s just say “Killer A” and “Killer B”. I get it; No matter which one you choose, you’re dead either way so why does it matter? Totally get it. But that wasn’t what was here. It was “Killer A saying you may die in six months” vs. “Killer B is going to kill you tomorrow.” See the difference? A lot of people would likely want to live another six months, if only to hold onto the hope that they’ll find a way out in the interim.
Instead, they voted for a guy who wants to send missiles over there like it’s the 4th of July.
Vote now. Protest later. Don’t elect Trump.
Sounds like a description of the GeNoCiDe jOe crowd who helped end democracy
Imagine believing the USA was ever a democracy.
Yes because it was a piece of shit already so let’s make it worse and pretend to be moral while doing it
Maybe you missed the statements calling for a cease fire.
Someone else assembled this reference for those ignorant of the news.
https://midwest.social/post/19205574/13516874
Then they elect Trump. Smart.
You have to understand Harris accepted millions in bribes from pro-Israeli lobbying groups.
It was a hard choice between genocide and money, but Harris found a way to sell out America and keep both.
As did literally every other president for the last 40+ years. Now you’ve elected Trump instead. Smart.
Libs trying to argue for participation in the system by pointing out how it’s a complete failure.
Standard dem election strategy.
Yeah better elect Trump. That’ll sort it.
Vote now. Protest later.
If they didn’t want to lose because of protest votes they should have thrown a bone to the protesters before the election.
The DNC chose this, everything else is just an attempt to deflect blame.
I’m not saying they weren’t shit. But electing Trump was not the way to protest.
I have a hard time blaming the voters for anything when they live in the most heavily propagandized country on the planet. Ultimately the voters opinions don’t matter when they can be shaped by billions of dollars in ads and media time.
This has been explained. I worry that going over it again will somehow not be helpful. Just let the leopards eat all our faces like you decided.
Not just worse for Palestinians. Remember, Trump enacted the first US Muslim immigrant ban in 2017.
https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/the-enduring-harms-of-trumps-muslim-ban
It’s not too dissimilar from how a Trump voter thinks in my opinion. Alot of them know they’re getting fucked but just want someone they hate to get fucked a little harder and they’re happy.
TBH I just want the dems to stop supporting genocide. Since the dems aren’t motivated by empathy or principle but by self-interested politricks, I’m hoping that a trump-led genocide will motivate the dems to stop genociding people.
Well it’s great to hear you’ve found a silver lining for a fucking genocide. /s
Y’all nostradamuses keep saying it’s going to get worse while genocide joe never ceases genociding. It’ll probably be the same like it’s been for the past 75+ years.
U.S. to Keep Sending Arms to Israel Despite Dire Conditions in Gaza
Palestine is the same as it has been for the last 75 years.