• H4mi@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Really? The festival’s being is in question? With 3500 attendees, many of them international? Posting videos of a normal looking psy trance event? That’s a conspiracy and could really be a military operation? And the Palistinians have no choice in the way they resist the occupation? I wasn’t there, but I’m very familiar with Universo Paralello.

    I’d love for Palestine to be military equal or superior, but my country doesn’t have a congress. We do have a stronger support base for the Palestinians than many other countries though. Zionists is a commonly used word.

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      Can you begin to imagine being born and living your entire life in a concentration camp? Having children and knowing that they will know nothing but life as a prisoner. Now imagine that just outside your cages a bunch of your jailers are having a party. What would your reaction be?

      No, those attendees are not IDF operatives but they are settlers that are part of the Palestinians people’s subjugation. Look, I understand that there are people born in Israel who did not choose to be there and I have some sympathy for specifically those people, though they should not be at a festival next to a concentration camp regardless. However, unlike the Palestinians THEY COULD LEAVE. In fact, in response to the attacks on Saturday many of them did just that. Guess what the Palestinians can’t do, even if they wanted to leave their home.

      And the Palistinians have no choice in the way they resist the occupation?

      They tried peaceful protests years ago, Israeli forces shot them, specifically targeting medical personnel. The UN investigated it and determined that basically every fatality at the protests were unjustified, and condemned Israel for it. Then the international community proceeded to do absolutely nothing else.

      Would you prefer they try that a few more times?

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        Not only do your jailers constantly party it up and rub it in your face, but they continuously steal land and homes from you and the other prisoners and continually violate your sacred sites and treat you as if you’re not even human. Imagine that for your whole life. Slavery is similar in its total disregard for human life, but in this case they don’t even want to use your labor so they have no incentive whatsoever to protect your life.

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      I’m not claiming the event was an operation, more that it was clearly in a conflict zone with combatants in the crowd. I don’t know about you, but I’m not in the practice of attending raves outside a concentration camp with tanks on site.

      So what is your grand solution on coming to a solution then? Palestinians die each day nothing happens to bring them freedom. There is sweeping support for Israel from the most powerful nations in the world and little for Palestine, the feet dragging, Israeli slanted proposals obviously aren’t in Palestinians’ best interest, so conflict is unsurprising

    • ikilledtheradiostar [comrade/them, love/loves]@hexbear.net
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      If I were to lock you in a cage and poke you with a poker every few days while only allowing you the bare minimum to stay alive, during your stay some people party next to you cage ignoring you for years. You know some , if not most of these people are my friends and aid me in my keep of you.

      During one of these parties you manage to pick your lock and find a weapon. What do you do?

      Oh yeah. I made the cage out of parts of your house, we’re in your house, and while some of the neighborhood is on your side the chief of police is arming me and supplies party favors.