• frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe
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    2 days ago

    Well…yes, in most areas that inconveniences 3 people vs 300. Bicyclists, despite their entire personality being geared around it, are not by default better or more valuable than people driving cars.

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      2 days ago

      What cyclists are more of, compared to people driving cars, is vulnerable, which means they’re more important to protect – by not blocking bike lanes and forcing them to mix with car traffic, for example!

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        1 day ago

        But that’s an irrelevant point if you live, as most Americans do, in an area where nobody is biking to begin with.

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          12 hours ago

          Do you not see cyclists because they don’t exist or you don’t see them because they use different roads than you?

          Just because most don’t doesn’t mean that no one does.

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            5 hours ago

            Again when did say it did? Good God bicycles-are-my-identity people are fucking annoying.

            However to answer your question, the main st in Cambridge has 1000 cars for every bike. There are times of day that isn’t true, but for the most part it’s accurate. There’s also 1000 pedestrians for every bike, and amazon and other drivers and bikes block them too. Bikes are probably the bigger danger due to being ridden on the sidewalk at road speeds through dense pedestrians.

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      2 days ago

      If cycling wasn’t so dangerous and given lower priority there would be many more cyclists and fewer cars. We see this wherever town planners make this change.

      Less car traffic in general is better for everyone, even the drivers. It doesn’t matter if you think that cyclists are annoying or holier than thou. It doesn’t matter what kind of people they are at all. They could all be assholes, that doesn’t change the fact that cars are bad actually.

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      1 day ago

      But are people driving cars better and more valuable than cyclists?

      Have you ever been to China? Holland?

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            1 day ago

            But are people driving cars better and more valuable than cyclists?

            Your claim is that this is a genuine question about my beliefs and not a rhetorical question aka statement?

            Even though that claim is disingenuous on its face, the very clear answer is No.