i can’t even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they’re not quiet now once they get called out

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    Can it?

    If their votes didn’t swing the election, how were they harmful? Or whatever you mean by “the opposite of helpful”?

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      This is like saying “my vote doesn’t matter, it’s not like the candidate I would have voted for lost by a single vote”

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        Notice how you didn’t answer the question?

        We have the benefit of hindsight and they were correct. You just want to pretend that they weren’t.

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          When a better outcome is possible, but fails to happen, everyone who would have preferred it but did nothing to contribute to the effort is at fault. Had Kamala Harris won, a peaceful solution would not yet be achieved, but would still be possible. Now that Donald Trump has won, a peaceful solution is no longer possible. Is that what the people who stayed home or voted Green want?

          Edit: the other stuff I said was kind of mean, so I took it out.

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            Had Kamala Harris won, a peaceful solution would not yet be achieved, but would still be possible.

            I can’t really prove what would have happened… but that was never going to happen. She was going to keep signing off on weapons shipments and refused to call it genocide.

            She wouldn’t have supported it as much as Trump. But no way was she in favor of a peaceful solution; she was offering a slower genocide.

            We can both do better and expect better.

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            Liberals are pretending the electoral college doesn’t exist because it destroys your point. In most states, your vote has no chance of affecting the outcome. If California is ever in play, that means Texas, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Florida are Red and the Republican has already won.

            Swing states voters have a much tougher decision to make, but it still boils down to the same thing: You’re telling voters to vote the way you want them to. If a candidate wants people to vote for them, they have to support issues that they care about.

            The buck stops with Kamala. The number of people who voted blue down the ticket but otherwise at the top shows that. We ran a terrible race, that got going way too late because Biden prevented us from having a real primary. Blaming voters is not a winning strategy. The Dems need to learn their lesson and earn back trust from the working class.