• nnullzz@lemmy.world
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    Not many other ways to make 1.1 million people really angry, on top of all else. Not everyone there is a terrorist, but they all have to pay the price for the actions of those whose are.

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      Oh there’ll be a much larger number of terrorists after this.

      What would you do if your family was killed by a government claiming you’re inhuman just for existing and your neighbour deciding to launch a rocket at that government out of sheer frustration for their living conditions.

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        Honestly can’t blame them if they did. Obviously killing Israeli civilians is indefensible but they are ensuring that thousands more will grow up hating all Israelis. The same logic Israelis and Israel supporters are using to kill innocent Palestinians is what Hamas runs off of. Each group blaming the entire “other” group for everything. Exactly like netanyahu wanted all along I imagine.

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          I wouldn’t doubt that there’s also a fear that Israel will just annex the evacuated territory after this, to compound matters.

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            There’s no way they’re not gonna do that, they’re already annexing territories where people reside. People will move to the side that’s not getting bombed and when it’s all done, 2 million people will be living in half the small area they had at best.

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            I’d genuinely be shocked if they didn’t try to annex the majority of the land if not all of it. Cornering a mass of people isn’t a wise decision but they will use the inevitable violence as an excuse for all out ethnic cleansing

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            And if they don’t, its very likely they’ll just make it unlivable so the people can’t feasibly return The current Israeli government would be quite happy with Gaza City just being empty. That would solve a lot of long term problems with only short term consequences. A final solution to the Palestinian problem, if you would.

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              Turns out the Israelíes liked 1930s German policy, just not who it was directed against. They’re using the same playbook as the former oppressors of their people to inflict the generational pain onto others.

              Interesting to see them justify how much God supports their hatred.

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          Actually, after Saturday, all Israelis will grow up with more confidence that Hamas’ military base (Palestine) is there to plan the murder of Israel. So no, you are wrong because you forgot that fact

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            That’s the message Israelíes are sold just like the Palestinians are told the israelians are out to kill them all.

            They’re all being fooled by a very small number of people holding all the control on either side.

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        A much higher number of justifications for that government to crack down even further. First you demonize the enemy, then you strike against them, and when they inevitably defend themselves, you have a justification to kill the people trying to kill yours. That playbook is millenia old and still works.

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        Palestine is not a regular place. It is a military base for terrorists. Downvote all you want, this is a fact you will need to understand.

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          The Gaza strip has over 2 million people, half of which are under 18. That is a “fact you will need to understand” before you go around defending the atrocities Israel is and will commit.

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            Israel is defending itself from future attacks like Saturday. It doesn’t matter what your feelings are about this the fact is Palestine is a terrorist military base, and Israel is about to liberate it.

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              Let me try to put this in a different perspective. First: Gaza has an average age of about 19 years old, and a bit more than half of the population is under 18. Second: there was a Reuters report and video yesterday about how the cemeteries are full so people are burying their loved ones in donated vacant lots with cinder blocks and bits of rubble as gravestones.

              To emphasize and clarify the point: half the population is children and they’ve run out of space for more graves.

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                Hundreds of terrorists attacked innocent people, including babies on Saturday. You’re a coward for defending terrorists.

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                  I never said anything about defending Hamas. If there was a way to extract them and offer them up to the Hague without endangering innocent civilians, I’d be all for it. But we should put Netanyahu and his cabinet on trial as well. There can be more than one monster at a time

            • Szymon@lemmy.ca
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              Palestine is defending itself from future attacks like the last several decades. It doesn’t matter what your feelings are about this the fact is Israel is a terrorist military base, and Palestine is about to liberate it.

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                  You offer no truths except hollow words that echoed around your empty brain.

                  You know nothing about the truth of the situation, only what your propaganda has lied to you about, and you’re top stupid, ignorant, or paid to spread disinformation to consider another point of view.

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          If you believe that, then you have no concept of reality and just accept whatever fantasy is told to you to make you angry.

          I pity you.

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            It is a military base for terrorists whether you will admit that or not is up to you.

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              I agree that Israel is a military base for terrorists just as much as Palestine is

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                  Then shut the fuck up, get off the Internet, and keep this problem in your own fucking backyard instead of spreading your victim complex and hatred across the globe.

                  Get fucked

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                    Wow, you’re quite a terrible person aren’t you? Not surprising I guess since you support terrorists.

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              Unrelated, but I love these posts. They help me block users I really don’t want to interact with, not now or in the future.

              Guys, just block an move one, it’s better for your mental health. Let them speak to dead air, you can’t argue with these people.

              People I’m blocking: racists, mysogynists, transphobes, homophobes, any kind of ‘phobe’ actually that has to do with people’s own body or sex, ‘grab them by the pussy’ guys, …

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                I hope you do too friend. Your soul left you a long time ago and you’re truly hopeless now.

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                  Nice projection. Wish I could help you. But I’m not trained for trauma. Whatever it was, it’s not your fault.

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                    Thank god our government isn’t as stupid as some of the people in this thread. Too much propaganda out there for folks to consume and become brain washed. Thank fucking god the US military is supporting the innocents.

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      I’d say a fairly high percentage of them agree with what Hamas did. That’s the Islamic world for you.

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        What’s Hamas mad about? Have they been the subject of unjust oppression or something? As if perhaps the collective world is saying “Well of fucking course this would happen, look at what they are forced to experience”? Are there political options to end the genocidal policies that are reasonable for the continued existence of both people? Are people forced to choose leaders that present the only solution available for the option of a life not under constant oppression like a WWII Warsaw ghetto?

        Nah, that can’t be it, they must just hate the Jews or something.

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        Says the ‘probably’ christian whose people have committed the most genocides in the history of this world.

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        If I lived in Gaza now, I probably would have started to think Hamas were right all along.

        And the only reason I’m not, is because I was lucky in my birth lottery. I am here not there. I am safe, and not there in danger for my life.

        It’s literally just luck.

        Not everybody is so lucky.

        I wish cooperation was a lot more typical in the world, instead of the egoistic and power hungry normal that it is. Doing whatever one can do to get an upper hand, instead of just trying to make the world a better place. In the long run, we all would benefit.

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          Hammas killed more Palestinians than Israel did. When they came to power they commited mass murder of opposing political parties within Gaza Strip. Hammas is a fanatic religious group. They took both the residents of Gaza Strip and Israel hostage.

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            But would the people present in Gaza currently know that?

            All they would see and feel are airstrikes and bombs being dropped on them.

            The point is, this is going to create far more radicalism than it would solve.