• moistclump@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I wonder how UBI would affect homelessness and addiction. I imagine the mental health and housing crises would continue, but differently?

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      In all of the studies of UBI homelessness decreased. I don’t know about addiction, but drug abuse is generally reduced with increased economic stability since a lot of people use to escape their stressful living situatuon.

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      In practice during covid, it made it worse. People came to BC, Canada explicitly because it had the best covid benefits, and on TV said that they were collecting the benefits for the purpose of doing drugs with zero intent on helping society.

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        There will always be some abuse of services. It just turns out to be negligible most of the time. The benefits will far outweigh the losses. Also - people shop for services all the time. If they want to move to a province that has better benefits, that would be normal and smart. If the program ends up being mostly federal, this won’t be as much of an issue as things will be more standardized, though.

      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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        CERB (the federal Covid benefits) was federal so B.C. was the same as Alberta which was the same as all the other provinces and territories.

        So you are full of shit.

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        This absolutely is not true, and even if somehow there was a clip of someone saying that, the person saying it was an idiot and/or you misunderstood them, because CERB was federal and BC didn’t offer a single cent more than any other province.

        BC (specifically the lower mainland aka the area around Vancouver) has always had more homeless and transient people, because it’s the only province where the winter won’t flat out kill you if you are outdoors.

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          1 year ago

          The documentary of Oppenheimer Park’s homeless “camp” has multiple people saying it.

          One was a former welder from Ontario.

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            Well whoever they were, they had no fucking clue what they were talking about, BECAUSE CERB WAS A FEDERAL PROGRAM AND PAID THE SAME AMOUNT TO EVERY PROVINCE.

            Who cares what anyone said, the entire foundation of your argument is false, this is meaningless to the conversation and I specifically said either they are an idiot or you misunderstood.

            Also I notice how you didn’t actually link anything, and expect me to go watch an entire documentary (without naming it) to see your “proof”.

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        1 year ago

        By that logic, provinces should compete to provide the worst social services so people will move away and they can reduce their spending.