• themeatbridge@lemmy.world
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    I won’t cry for Cheney, who spent her life feeding the beast that’s eating her now, but this is a horrendous precedent and someone should stop it.

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      There was an opportunity to do that a little over a month ago. But because Democrats didn’t put up the god-perfect candidate, voters opted for the dictator, then complained when he started acting like a dictator.

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        No one asked for god-perfect, they asked for not shit and who cared about their concerns.

        Sadly the DNC decided they know what’s best for everyone and threw the election.

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          Sadly the DNC decided they know what’s best for everyone and threw the election.

          Funny, I must have missed the phone call where the DNC told me to just stay home and let Trump win.

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          Yup, obviously they should have realised that Drump was a fine candidate whose personal charm, decorum and honestly would overwhelm any other candidate.

          </S> obviously

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            No response to "Democrats ran a shit candidate who didn’t even mention healthcare or taxing the rich, and never won a primary " involves the words ‘Trump’, ‘putin’, ‘nazi’, or ‘republicans’.

            Donald Trump isn’t the problem. The problem isnt that donald trump is so attractive or that the voters are so stupid. That’s like blaming fire for drawing an audience or being mad that ice is slippery.

            The problem is that Democrats don’t want to win if it means a progressive agenda. The function of the Democratic party is to mollify progressives and help ratchet us to the right by providing a fig leaf for the same owner class that does almost all the donating to politics and is literally driving the legislative and judicial agenda of the GOP.

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              So the solution to all of these problems is to…force the entire country even further to the right and allow a dictator to return to power?

              If you notice that you’re about to shoot yourself in the foot, the solution to that problem isn’t to point the gun to your own head instead.

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                Did someone suggest we do that?

                Is someone here in this thread suggesting that we should force the entire country further to the right and allow a dictator to return to power?

                Did you maybe mean to reply to somebody else?

                The solution to America’s problems won’t materialize if we magically criticize Donald Trump and the Republicans hard enough. There’s no magic words we’re going to say that are going to change those people. Instead, I would suggest that conversations about criticism of the opposition be separated from conversations about criticism of ‘our team’.

                The Republicans aren’t to blame for the faults in Democrats, and the Democrats are not to blame for the faults in Republicans. The major political parties have plenty of faults and some of those faults they have in common, but they are distinctly different in a number of important ways.

                The Republican party can’t help America improve. It’s not just that the system is rigged against the little guy it’s that Republicans don’t want to help the little guy. They want to squeeze him harder. The cruelty is the point.

                The Democratic party can’t help America improve. The system is rigged against the little guy, but literally anybody who wants to try and help the little guy has to come here to this party to make that attempt because the party is at least hospitable to the concept.

                The stumbling block of the left is not Donald Trump. He’s a symptom of our problem. Our problem is people like Nancy Pelosi and Diane Feinstein who are pathologically incapable of cooperating with anyone to the left of Reagan.

                You don’t get Donald Trump if you promote Bernie. You don’t get Donald Trump if you have real primaries, let the people pick the candidates, and create a pipeline to put rising Stars into leadership positions.

                I’m really worried that the deadweight at the top of the party is literally willing to sacrifice democracy to fascists rather than give one inch to progressives.

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        Well the important thing here is that you learned your party needs to run better candidates if they want to win. I certainly hope we learned our lesson.

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          Well the important thing here is that you learned your party needs to run better candidates if they want to win.

          Well if its not your party why would we want your advice? It sounds like you are someone who has set themselves up to be a lifetime loser in politics who will never win and has never won.

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            laughs while taking his kids to a park on a local bike lane all built in the last few years

            Buddy, I don’t identify with a political party or ideology. These are tools to deliver material gains for your community.

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          Well the important thing here is that you learned your party needs to run better candidates if they want to win

          The saddest part of it is people who keep dredging up this inane reasoning understand neither the irony or stupidity involved in it.

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            Is it irony to know voters are dumb and then expect them to know better? Definitely stupid.

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      The lawsuit will happen so there’s no stopping that precedent. The only good precedent that can be set is actually taking these phony lawsuits into court where their superpower, lying, has no affect.