Perhaps for chapter consumer products, but starting a car company that produces normal mass produced cars is not really done overnight. And Tesla produces the most shite cars of all of them only really disrupting by cutting out customer service at this point.
You’re probably referring to that study showing Tesla with 250 problems-on-delivery per 100 cars… I don’t own a Tesla or know anyone who does, but it’s worth noting the vast, vast majority of those problems are cosmetic, and fixed before the car leaves the customer service facility. If you see the graphic for that study, there are some pretty huge names way down on the list just above Tesla - and those are not mostly cosmetic issues.
No it was in Norway. Tesla sold 21303 new cars in Norway in 2022. Total new car sales for Norway in 2022 was 174329.
Tesla Model Y is the most sold new car in Norway and Tesla is the largest brand. Totally electric cars is 79.3% of all new cars
(Norway has pretty generous tax incentives on electric cars making even high end Teslas pretty cheap)
83 out of 168 cases that ended up in “consumer court” (that is they have not been resolved without mediation) was Tesla. These cases are mostly not cosmetic but more serious issues that has not been resolved.
Edit: you can argue that with more sold cars they get more complaints. But Tesla has approximately 12 % of the market but 49% of the cases so they are over represented in Norway at least
It might be it’s because of Teslas business model. They protract the cases, and gamle on it not going to mediation. (Customer gives up) and that the US head office is required to evaluate the case, rather than the local or national dealer. In either case I don’t want shite US late stage capitalist business practices in Norway so Tesla can fuck right off.
Careful, now… We’re not allowed to say that a higher percent of bad things are the fault of a tiny percent of the total group of actors, even if the data is objectively true! 😉
Yep Mazda is my first auto maker blacklist… I’ve got Sony at the top from numerous incidents around 2004-2006, and Google since 2016. (obvs can’t get 100% away from Google because they keep buying companies, but I only need to get rid of my Nest and Fitbit shit to be completely google-free!)
Eh, it’s preferable when companies go ahead and self-identify as being comprehensively dog shit and worthless.
Just another company to throw on the list who will never receive a single dollar of my money as long as I live.
Won’t lose a wink of sleep over it. Good luck, Mazda.
What do you do when they all do it, though?
Buy a dumb car again, as long they’re still around 😊
I’ll move closer to the city and walk or use public transit.
Frankly, that’s unlikely. The free market will always make sure someone is there to disrupt, and I’ll always support the disruptor.
It’s already happening lol. There are no privacy-friendly modern cars.
Here’s a citation for your statement, mate.
No clue why people are down voting you for doing what I was too lazy to.
🤷♂️ I’m just trying to spread some knowledge to anyone who missed that report from Mozilla.
I supported the disruptor to cable so hard they became the thing they disrupted and now I don’t have netflix
Really? The most expensive Netflix plan available is still 1/5th what the TV portion of my cable bill was…
I still have it, but honestly probably not for long because I just don’t use it. Sail the high seas and don’t support the culture-destroying shit!
Perhaps for chapter consumer products, but starting a car company that produces normal mass produced cars is not really done overnight. And Tesla produces the most shite cars of all of them only really disrupting by cutting out customer service at this point.
You’re probably referring to that study showing Tesla with 250 problems-on-delivery per 100 cars… I don’t own a Tesla or know anyone who does, but it’s worth noting the vast, vast majority of those problems are cosmetic, and fixed before the car leaves the customer service facility. If you see the graphic for that study, there are some pretty huge names way down on the list just above Tesla - and those are not mostly cosmetic issues.
No it was in Norway. Tesla sold 21303 new cars in Norway in 2022. Total new car sales for Norway in 2022 was 174329. Tesla Model Y is the most sold new car in Norway and Tesla is the largest brand. Totally electric cars is 79.3% of all new cars (Norway has pretty generous tax incentives on electric cars making even high end Teslas pretty cheap)
83 out of 168 cases that ended up in “consumer court” (that is they have not been resolved without mediation) was Tesla. These cases are mostly not cosmetic but more serious issues that has not been resolved.
Edit: you can argue that with more sold cars they get more complaints. But Tesla has approximately 12 % of the market but 49% of the cases so they are over represented in Norway at least
It might be it’s because of Teslas business model. They protract the cases, and gamle on it not going to mediation. (Customer gives up) and that the US head office is required to evaluate the case, rather than the local or national dealer. In either case I don’t want shite US late stage capitalist business practices in Norway so Tesla can fuck right off.
Careful, now… We’re not allowed to say that a higher percent of bad things are the fault of a tiny percent of the total group of actors, even if the data is objectively true! 😉
Disrupters like Tesla?
If ironic, well done. If serious, I’m sorry for you.
It’s best to remain ambiguous.
You’re right, Tesla has certainly been a disruptor in some ways - nobody could argue with that…
I assume you’re baiting an argument of some sort, based on experience with the maturity level around here…
When that happens, someone appears to make their version of the product without it.
That’s, that’s simply not true
Yep. I wouldn’t want to make it into a list but bmw and mazda are already on my blacklist
Yep Mazda is my first auto maker blacklist… I’ve got Sony at the top from numerous incidents around 2004-2006, and Google since 2016. (obvs can’t get 100% away from Google because they keep buying companies, but I only need to get rid of my Nest and Fitbit shit to be completely google-free!)