• JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    I know we hate it and they’ve really done and will still do some deeply fucked up shit, but man…maga is anti-establishment like the left. I’d rather have a class war than a civil war.

    A class war could mayyyyyyybe have a constructive resolution. But a civil war? 0% chance. None.

    I don’t want either at all but for Christ’s sake at least have it over the right thing if you’re gonna have one.

    • GodlessCommie@lemmy.worldOPM
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      MAGA, whether it’s regular or Blue, isnt anti establishment. They fully support their own versions of establishment, and both defend the status quo. There will be no form of civil war among the citizens, but they will keep us divided with meaningless culture war bullshit because it doesn’t threaten their positions of power.

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        MAGA, whether it’s regular or Blue, isnt anti establishment. They fully support their own versions of establishment, and both defend the status quo.

        I’m a brown skinned male and experienced backcountry hiker. A few months ago I finished a year living in a truck while traveling the US48, lots of time everywhere except Washington.

        My anecdotal experience is that the vast majority of Trump’s supporters are silent unless I’ve earned their respect somehow and solicit their perspective. Then they’ll readily communicate why they believe the system is broken, how they’ve reasoned out that nothing positive is achieved in the US without collective threats and acts of fiscal and physical violence, and the magnitude of their commitment to their principles.

        They don’t perceive the nuance of the problems. They can barely begin to reason out how to hypothetically solve them while also preserving the agency of others. They won’t while they continue to expose themselves to the propaganda often leveraged by their religious and political leaders. If the major trade unions continue to increase their educational efforts then the membership will continue to increasingly favor it.

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      What civil war though? There are no possible civil or geographic divisions. A class and culture war are the only possible ways out of this mess.

      I am on the side where we destroy the culture of greed and eat the rich.

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      4 days ago

      In case you weren’t aware, we are in a class war. If you haven’t been paying attention to what is happening to Luigi. They are throwing the book at him. They want him dead. They want to send a message. It’s not about justice or law anymore.

      Your only option at this point is to acknowledge the class war is happening or stick you head in the sand and try to pretend it isn’t.