• FooBarrington@lemmy.world
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    No, I don’t think that humanity is all evil. But I feel like you’re dodging the central question I’m asking, because you keep bringing up that we can also do good.

    God created good and evil, and he created us with the capacity to do good and evil, while he had the explicit knowledge that we’d do evil. He could have also chosen to only create good, and to create us with the capacity to only do good. Why did he create both good and evil, instead of only good?

    Initially you stated that good and evil are necessary for free will, but you immediately backtracked on that. Since then you keep repeating that humans do evil, but that’s not relevant to what I’m asking. Please try not to use any allegories or to reframe my question. Just try to answer: “God gave us the capacity to do evil, because…”

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      God gave us the capacity to do evil because he gave us free will. Giving free will meant doing evil is inevitable and anything different wouldn’t be free will

      He created humans with the capacity to do evil, therefore he created evil. I understand the central point, I’m disputing your belief that it’s possible to have free will and never do evil

      Can’t really represent this point without an allegory but are social insects (ants, bees, wasps, termites etc) represent always doing good? A river? Stellar fusion?

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        Oh, I thought you backtracked that immediately. So that means your god isn’t actually all-powerful, right? There exists some higher concept of good and evil to which he is bound, which he cannot violate?

        Who made that concept? Why is god able to do anything except create free will without evil? He created the concept of free will, why can’t he create it differently?