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Graph showing a 30% drop in UK users on Twitter since September 2023, which, the commenter says is on the back of a loss of about a third in the preceding months.
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Kind of misinformation. If X lost 30% of its original userbase between May 2023 and September 2024.
Even if we extrapolate on that that sharper decline at the end if the graph there’s no way they would have lost 50% of its original usrrbase by now.
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Thanks for sharing. I deleted the X app many months ago, maybe over a year? But I think I’m ready to actually delete my account now. Contribute to the global Xodus stats and whatnot.
Cool stuff.
One thing that I thought was good advice was to delete your account, then sign up with the same username so no-one can pretend they are you. I’d bet bots are hoovering up such accounts during the Xodus and it won’t end well.
Ah shit.
Can I instead just kind of… “clean” my existing account? Is that possible? Delete everything automatically yet keep my account, as a now blank one?
The site’s popularity with geezers who frequent flat-roofed pubs, however, has never been higher.
What does a flat roofed pub mean? (Serious)
Pub buildings built on the cheap or converted (i.e. single storey, flat roof) are almost always a reliable predictor for terrible beer, aggressive clientele, and a regular light dusting of snow on the bathroom sinks.
I think the meme started with the satirical Viz magazine.
I remember as a kid, we used to drive past one near Moss Side and it always struck me as the scariest boozer ever. Don’t think I’ve ever seen another one with such “fuck you!” vibes and I’ve been in some dodgy drinking holes.
The kind with a German shepherd on the roof?
Can be substituted for a Rottie, or a couple of Dobermans.
Is that the current exchange rate?
Keep going UK! We’re proud of you!
seriously if there has ever been a time to abandon anything mainstream or used to be mainstream anyway.
Whaddaya wanna bet all those prominent upticks are bot account launches?
And the sheer number of bots on Xitter makes you wonder how many actual people are left. Considering Musk used bots in his (poor) negotiations, it’s funny this might be what he relies on now to keep his numbers up.
That graph shows he lost 30%, not half?
By september of last year, we are now 3+ months on
If it took a year and 4 months lose 30% there’s no way he will have lost another 20% in 3 months.
I agree it’s improbable, I wouldn’t be surprised if it has accelerated though as Musk has been becoming increasingly obnoxious in UK and European politics. I’m sure there’s something like a 30% floor of people who actually like his shit.
Makes sense
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Repelled by the direction that both the site now called X and its owner have taken, an exodus from the platform is under way. That exodus — oh go on then, Xodus — has been particularly apparent in Britain, having gathered steam since Musk started posting things like “civil war is inevitable” during the riots that broke out over the summer. Many have left the platform entirely, while others merely lurk. “I have an answer to this, but discussion only on Bluesky these days am afraid [sic],” I saw someone reply on X recently.
Data from Similarweb shows active daily users in the UK have dropped from 8mn a year ago to only around 5.6mn now, with more than a third of that fall coming since the summer riots.
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As disillusioned X users become, yes, ex-X-users, they are finding their way on to alternative sites. With Mastodon having proved off-puttingly techy for many, that tends to either be Meta’s Threads app, or Bluesky, the platform that Twitter founder Jack Dorsey helped to start. But while the former is winning in terms of absolute numbers — about 1.4mn daily active users of Threads in the UK, compared with just over 100,000 for Bluesky — it is the latter that has grown the most rapidly over the past six weeks, and that is cementing itself as the top choice for media types, policy wonks, academics and the broader chatterati.
Although they have to make it weird:
That there is a new place for such people to congregate is all well and good, but the problem is that the chatterati — very nice and non-conspiracy-theorising and non-overtly-racist though they may be — tend to coalesce around some quite similar viewpoints, which makes for a rather echoey chamber. I’m not sure I have ever felt more like I’m at a Stoke Newington drinks party than when I’m browsing Bluesky (including when tucking into Perelló olives and truffle-flavoured Torres crisps in actual N16).
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An even more fundamental problem is that nobody on Bluesky seems to actually mind that they are in an echo chamber. When I told a friend, who happens to be an enthusiastic Bluesky user, what I was writing about this week, she replied “oh yes, but it is an echo chamber, that’s what people like about it, it’s lovely”.
Many enthuse about how like “old Twitter” Bluesky is, which is telling in itself: in the old days of Twitter, progressives far outnumbered their conservative counterparts in terms of how much they posted about politics on the platform, but that share has fallen dramatically since Musk took it over. According to the British Election Study, in the run-up to both the 2015 and 2019 elections, about 30 per cent of the most progressive Britons posted about politics on the platform. This year, while the most conservative Britons remained no less likely to post than before, the share of progressives posting on X had halved to 15 per cent; presumably that has since fallen much further, given that this survey preceded the riots.
It’s funny how people don’t realize that social interaction in general is largely a series of echo chambers. Your group of friends all likely share common interests and opinions, but no news correspondent is writing articles about how bad that is and how you should add a fascist or two to your New Year’s Eve party to balance it out.
Social media isn’t some public debate floor. It’s a platform for social interaction, and if nobody wants to listen to you, there’s probably a reason why. This obsession with neutrality and both sides-ism is poisoning our social relationships. Progressives not only far outnumbered conservatives in posting politics, they also far outnumbered conservatives in general. These platforms see a rise in conservative views (and then extremism) as they make more left leaning people feel unwelcome and drive them off the platform.
Lol, the author just has to panic about people enjoying a form of social media without nazis. Well, give it enough time and they’ll show up on the twitter alternatives too.
It’s too bad Mastadon can’t take advantage of this. Not sure why federation is so confusing to people, but people don’t like having to make choices about which server to pick.
this is why i wish people would stop it with the “oooh but it’s bad if everyone’s on mastodon.social!!!”
shit or get off the pot, if we want the world to benefit from an open platform it will have to begin with things being effectively decentralized. It’s in no way better for everyone to move to bluesky than it is for everyone to move to mastodon.social, and the idea that mastodon would take off without being effectively centralized at first is just utter fantasy.
Twitter user base is down to Musk, his alt account, Andrew Tate, bots, and the Proud Boys/KKK.
Pity the bulk is to Bluesky, not anything not Musk is a good thing for national discourse, although it could lead to worsening of echo chambers.
Naw, I love the blocklists of bluesky, I would rather have an echo chamber of intelligent conversation than the bigotry of the wild West.
You’ll notice the people who complain about the “echo chambers” are the ones that aren’t invited to the discourse.
If you want a good example of the damage echo chambers can do, look at the democrat performance in last year’s election. To get people to vote for you you have to listen and respond to their concerns.
You may not agree with their proposed solutions, but you can’t ignore whole segments of society.
But there’s a difference between a political party ignoring their constituents and a social media platform where people don’t want to interact with assholes. Social interaction, in general, is a series of echo chambers. You’re not gonna invite the MAGA asshole everybody hates to your birthday to balance out the conversation because he’ll rant about out how certain groups of people don’t deserve rights when the cake comes out. You’re gonna invite your friends who you largely agree with in your opinions and interests. We used to kick those kinds of people out all the time on the internet, and nobody had any issues with “echo chambers” back when forums were still the thing people used.
Social media isn’t some public debate floor. It’s the local pub.
If that’s what you think the cause of the election results was, then you are in your own echo chamber. A democratic candidate could have come out and said they have a million dollars and a lifetime supply of Diet Mountain Dew for every voter and the MAGA crowd would have said it was Soros money and started shilling red shirts and hats with “Don’t The Dew” on them. The problem wasn’t the democratic outreach; it was that the GOP was taking every opportunity to poison the well. You can see how it splinters their own party, because they just throw hate in all directions, but it doesn’t matter because they’ve built a “brand”. It’s the same way that Christians can give their money to the church while knowing full well that it only goes to support hate groups and pedophiles. It’s a cognitive dissonance of loving hate. The GOP built their own echo chamber out of brick and mortar, and they have sealed the entire party inside. It wasn’t that the Democrats were excluding voters, it was the voters that were excluding the Democrats.
He’s posting a range of graphs on Bluesky:
https://bsky.app/profile/jburnmurdoch.bsky.social/post/3lbdekbj4r22b
https://bsky.app/profile/jburnmurdoch.bsky.social/post/3latc7g4iuc2t
We don’t suffer fascists easily here.
Who do you think you are kidding Mister Muskler?
