• TheHolm@aussie.zone
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    1 year ago

    No other race in Australia have a panel. Differential treatment based on race = racism. Sorry, there is no way out of it. Does not matter of intention, it is what is it.

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        1 year ago

        It is about giving special voice to first nation which is race. It is clear as day.

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          Let’s flip this a bit. How would you feel if women made decisions about how men should live their life, but not consult them to see if this would help them or make life difficult for them? That’s all the voice was going to do. It wasn’t going to make it’s own laws or anything like that. It would always be the politicians elected by the general public that was going to do that. It was about making things level for first nations people’s. You keep saying you want everyone in Australia to be treated the same, THAT WAS THE POINT OF THE VOICE YOU DICKHEAD.

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            1 year ago

            It may be a point but it uses unacceptable methods. If voice was about , “let’s give any deprived people more voice” ( and define how it is actually will work) i would vote yes.

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              It was defined. Just because you swallowed the media bullshit and didn’t bother to look into the issue yourself doesn’t make you superior. If anything, it makes you inferior. And don’t say you did, you’ve already expressed surprise when someone linked you elsewhere in this thread.

              And what unacceptable methods? A fucking panel is unacceptable? Dear fucking Christ, we’re not talking about apartheid here, despite what you may think.

              How about this, what if we decided that people who immigrate to Australia don’t get the right to have equal representation in govt when it comes to matters of immigration? Would you have come here? No, because the system wouldn’t be fair for you. That’s what happens with our first nations people’s. They don’t get a fair say in things that effect them. And that’s wrong.

              No wonder you moved here, were mostly racist, so you fit right in.

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                1 year ago

                Differences is. First nation people has exactly same right as anyone else. They already have representation via normal election.

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                  No. They don’t have normal representation via normal election. This has been proven numerous times. Since the Morrison govt. It’s the whole reason the voice was proposed. Do you think people just went “I’m bored, let’s cause a stir”. No. This was based on facts, something you’ve decided to completely ignore.

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                    1 year ago

                    From top of my head they are 3.8% of population. So they should be heard for that 3.8%. And about Ignored, I’m not claiming it is wrong, but could you please provide some references.

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      No other race in Australia has a history of subjugation and misrepresentation that is centuries old. And for the last fucking time, I’ll explain this again - THERE IS NO PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT, THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE PANEL WAS TO MAKE SURE ANYTHING THAT MAY AFFECT THEM WAS FAIR. THEY GOT NOTHING SPECIAL. Stop repeating propoganda and actually read what I and others are saying, it makes you look dumber than rocks when you keep going on with this horseshit line of codswallop you’re spewing.