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    You’re twisting words to mean what you want them to mean. The healthcare is free but earning a salary is not. It’s very simple. You don’t pay for the healthcare, ever, no matter how often on expensive it is, but earning a salary is not free, and you get charged every time according to how much you get. The healthcare is free for everyone. Free. No charge. Unlimited. Free.

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      No I am literally describing how the system works. I understand that when you go to a hospital you don’t ever open your wallet. It’s because you all already paid for it.

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        No, that’s bending reality to suit your right wing narrative. The reality is that the healthcare is free, but earning a salary isn’t. It doesn’t matter how much tax (if any) someone has paid or will pay, it’s a completely irrelevant number, because the healthcare is free for everyone.

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          Don’t take my word for it.

          The vast majority of public NHS funding comes from general taxation and National Insurance contributions. A small proportion of funding (1% of the total Department of Health and Social Care budget in 2022/23) comes from patient charges for services such as prescriptions and dental treatment. The level of NHS funding in a given year is set by central government through the Spending Review process.

          Another one (Wikipedia)

          The National Health Service (NHS) is the publicly funded healthcare system in England, and one of the four National Health Servicesystems in the United Kingdom. It is the second largest single-payer healthcare system in the world after the Brazilian Sistema Único de Saúde. Primarily funded by the government from general taxation (plus a small amount from National Insurance contributions), and overseen by the Department of Health and Social Care, the NHS provides healthcare to all legal English residents and residents from other regions of the UK, with most services free at the point of use for most people.[4] The NHS also conducts research through the National Institute for Health and Care Research (NIHR).[5]

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          Right wing narrative? Dude the hospital has to be funded from somewhere and it’s primarily taxes. And I am very much in favor of your healthcare system, I want to pay those taxes! I think the American healthcare system is broken and insane. We pay taxes for it and we pay insurance and we pay out of pocket. It’s absolutely ridiculous and poorly built.

          I don’t think you understand your own system or you are just so committed to vilifying me you’re just not reading what I am writing? You called me entitled in the other comment? I can’t follow what you’re saying anymore.

          You pay taxes, those taxes pay for a lot of the systems you depend on that your government provides. This includes healthcare. It’s not a critique, it’s a good way of doing things and it’s reality. I don’t understand what you’re so upset about.

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            I’m not upset, I’m just correcting you every time you try to claim that things that are free aren’t.

            When the waiter says you get free refills of your soda, do you start an argument saying “NO NO I PAID FOR THAT. IT’S NOT FREE. IT’S PAID FOR OUT OF THE OVERCHARGING YOU’RE DOING ON THE REST OF MY MEAL.” No, because in the restaurant, you behave like a sane human being that accepts that free means you’re not charged, not that somehow it was magically created without expense to anyone.

            Healthcare is free in the UK because it’s paid for by the government, who charge people taxes according to how much income they have, absolutely not in according to how much healthcare they get. The patient isn’t charged. That’s what free means. It doesn’t mean no-one paid, it means the recipient didn’t.

            Stop trying to make free mean “no one anywhere spent any money at all” it’s not what free means. Free means you didn’t get charged. Buy one, get one free means you get the second one without paying. It DOESN’T mean the supermarket isn’t making a profit. Stop correcting people for using words to mean what they mean. Free means no charge. Healthcare is free in the UK.