Like the kind that made you stop and think for a second about how stupid the person advocating it is. For me, it’s the classic “The biggest mistake in recent history was the Allies not pushing into Russia after the fall of Berlin.”
There’s just a level of imperialist arrogance and blood thirst in there that makes my skin crawl. The worst thing in human history was that the US didn’t immediately betray the Soviets and wipe them out until they were sure communism was done for.
I’m sure I’ve heard a lot but one that stuck with me is “gunboat diplomacy and imperialism is good actually.” From the same mouth a minute later: “the only reason the KMT lost [the fucking Chinese civil war] was because the US stopped giving them weapons. Communists are fundamentally incapable of accomplishing anything on their own.”
It’s like his mind had to course correct mid-sentence because he was close to fucking up his own world view.
It does seem like that, but I do believe he thinks it’s all internally coherent.
Equating communism and fascism.
I mean we seen that a billion times in various versions in mainstream and got used to this but still it’s the stupidest fucking thing ever.
I just used the “social democracy is the left wing of fascism line” and the response was “well ackshually communism is the left wing of fascism and all the damn populists are spoiling our perfect social democracy” Completely braindead.
I know, right? The body count of fascism is laughable compared to communism.
Destroying the 3 Gorges Dam is both easy to accomplish and desirable.
I once had a coworker fucking uno reverso card me when he started talking some weird white Islamo-nationalist shit and then went onto some really racist tirade against black folk.
He kept talking about the need to defend ones’ own people, so I brought up the Black Panthers and what they stood for, what they did in service to not only black people but for the people entirely. I told him they protected their own and that our state killed them for it.
He brought up Hitler. He said “just like Hitler, he was protecting his own”!
I don’t even remember what I said after that, I was flabbergasted and almost certain we were both wasted.
white Islamo-nationalist
WHAT
It is a simple one really: that imperialism brought civilization, technology, and relative prosperity to the natives (some youtube channel that “debunked” communism said this)
Sounds more or less like modernization theory, which is indeed absurd. Yet the empire’s court economists and political scientists continue to write about it in an effort to make it seem serious and believable.
Of course! They have to create agents of capital from amongst the workers, and that means proclaiming the “benefits” of imperialism.
Some frat bro looked me dead the eye and was like “We should nuke the Middle East. All of it. How many of them are good people, really?”
This was within 5 minutes of meeting him
Reminds me of a colleague. He said we (Russia) should nuke Mi6 and announce “we’ll do the same to anyone else who’ll try us”
This sub conveniently forgetting about 200 years of Russian imperialism & going to bat for Russia in Ukraine. Like I know u guys don’t like Western powers but countries shouldn’t be able to conduct “special military operations” just because they’re bigger than their neighbor.
Username checks out.
Imperialism isn’t “country invades another country”
Sometimes it includes invasion… This war is fallout from the Ukrainian revolution in 2014.
Are you a demsoc? Do you think the Soviet Union was imperialist?
When is a hegemony not imperialist?
The soviet union was not a hegemony. I’m sure someone here can explain.
