• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    The people running the show since Obama left are the ones that are still pissed he beat Hillary in 08.

    Instead of reshaping the DNC, Obama ignored it and Hillary’s people have had a hold of it except the brief few months Donna Brazil got in. And since she went public with all the shit they’d been doing, we haven’t seen anything else for 8 years.

    They know exactly what they’re doing won’t win elections.

    They know exactly what will win elections instead.

    But that’s not what fills their campaign coffers, so that’s not what we’ll get from them.

    The goals of Dem voters and Dem leadership haven’t been aligned for decades.

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      3 days ago

      I still remember when Donna Brazile destroyed her reputation and lost her job after getting caught leaking questions for a CNN event to the Hilary campaign. Isn’t she one of Hilary’s people?

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          Thank you so much for sharing this, this was exactly the kind of very credible (and wonderfully succinct) detail I needed to finally get some closure on 2016. I knew Hillary fucked us, goosed the whole party to try to force her way in.

          In my opinion the ongoing failure of the Democrat party is significantly caused by this exact saga. I think this was the point many passionate people (like myself) were forced to realize “oh. The Democrats aren’t working for us either, the whole goddamn thing is rigged against all of us”, and there’s never been the same enthusiasm since.

          When people blame Democrats-the-party-leadership, this is what I think of. Still infuriates me to this day, things could have been different. Now all these years later here we are, the “deplorables” she derided - people Bernie would have sincerely sought common ground with! - are well on their way to fascism.

          Edit: grammar

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            For me it was the fact that the first time the Democrats let a Progressive run in their primary (Bernie) they also ran like 7 or 8 other progressives in an obvious attempt to siphon votes from Bernie

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      3 days ago

      Politicians should have to be able to publicly account for every single dollar in their bank accounts. Something tells me if we somehow could magically make that happen tomorrow there wouldn’t be a politician left.

      Maybe Bernie lol.

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        The magical way is having won an election and spending the next 4 years passing legislation and letting people know every day that you are working towards it, showing results every day of every month until the end of mandate

        But yeah for that you need to win an election first

        And be consistent

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        When one candidate’s campaign can take control of the party (via signed agreements!) more than a year before she’s nominated as the party’s candidate, while keeping that secret, because the party was in debt and the party chair Debbie Wasserman-Whateverfuckher let it happen -

        That’s a lot more than just raising money. That’s deploying a strategy to exert total control, no matter what the constituents want and what the primary procedure requires, AND being dishonest about it the whole way.

        Besides, aren’t we tired of the “having a lot of money means you can do what you want” approach to things?