The people complaining hardest are the ones who called democrats genocidal fascists and refused to vote. This site was filled to the brim with anty Democrat posts at election time, now it’s filled with “why aren’t they doing anything??” Posts, it’s the same people
TBF I voted extra hard for Harris and I’m still wondering why Democrats are voting yes on Trumps cabinet picks and why an 83 year old Bernie Sanders is out drumming up the masses while Hakeem Jefferies tells Jon Stewart that we’re all too stupid to know how amazing Democrats are.
ALSO, Democrats don’t seem to give a shit about the genocide, including you. So IDK what the fuck you expect me to say. I voted for harm reduction because I knew exactly what Trump was going to do, but that doesn’t mean I gave up all of my rights to complain about the shit job that Democrats do.
You need to understand that American non-voters are unironically fucking stupid. They heard you complaining about Democrats and that just reinforced their decision to not vote for anyone.
Wait, so it’s up to me to sweep all of the bullshit under the rug so we can trick people into voting for the lesser evil instead of the Democrats being responsible for giving the people what they want and need?
What’s more important to me is that we demand better from our elected officials and stop accepting “at least it’s not the very worst” as acceptable.
You can Susan Collins at me all day but you’re never going to convince me to go out and cheer on “could be worse, bro”. I KNOW it could be worse and that’s why I vote against republicans but I’m going to demand the people I vote for DO BETTER.
Maybe the Democrats should prove the complainers wrong. The Democratic leadership has had plenty of opportunity to build trust amongst the voters, and decided to ignore them instead. They’ve spent years letting their voters down, which is why they aren’t trusted.
And then what? Get 4 more years of a genocidal Cop in the white house further normalizing “tough on the border” policies and genocidal foreign policy. And then follow it up with another Republican with even more of a “mandate” to murder immigrants and bomb brown kids? America has been a dictatorship of the capitalist class since it’s founding. Voting for president is like voting for a temporary court jester. It doesn’t change who runs this country. It only changes which interest of the ruling class are served.
Edit: Did he delete his comment? I can’t see it. But dude went full lib-fascist. Told me he hopes the brown shirts come for me.
Liberals trying to not side with brown shirts challenge impossible. God, it’s amazing how history repeats itself. It’s ok. They’ll round up all us “Larpers” first. I mean it’s the first line of the poem.
I guess I was LARPing when I went to protest that blocked shipments of weapons in the Seattle docks. Bombs that kill 45% children. I guess I was LARPing when I joined protest for Palestine in Vancouver. I guess I’m LARPing when I organize with the PSL to protest against ICE raids.
I’m sure you’ll say “none of that matters” because resisting fascist with actual material actions is LARPing. But voting, voting in a system that is controlled by the interest of the capitalist class. THAT’S what makes a difference. /s
Maybe come join the live action role players. At least we go outside more than once every 4 years. At least we prepare our neighborhoods with ways to resist ICE. It sounds like you just wanted to fall asleep for 4 more years while actual activist in this country continue to resist fascism and Imperialism whether it’s a blue or red guy in the Whitehouse. Maybe come join the “LARPers” and make actual material impact.
Or you could just cry on reddit that “Leftist” aren’t doing enough. When the only political action you seem to have ever done is cast a vote.
I mean your comment admitted it. You want to hide your head in the sand. Go ahead. Go hide your head in the sand. I’m sure there’s a new Anime you can go watch.
Not just voting, but yes engagement with the electoral system in various ways. As well as volunteer work and organizing.
But I can say I’m done with that now.
I noticed my post got nuked. Interesting.
Edit: Also “siding” with the brown shirts? I merely aim to survive them. If not, oh well at least I’m done dealing with the bullshit of being alive I guess.
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Edit: Did he delete his comment? I can’t see it. But dude went full lib-fascist. Told me he hopes the brown shirts come for me.
A mod deleted it.
I was being a smart ass because I assumed you and your type are trying to drag me into a violent conflict and I wont engage with that, not after this election result.
Besides realistically they’ll come for both of us and then we’ll be dead and not have to worry about this shit anymore. Its laughable that we’d be able to put up a fight: we would be turned into red mist.
They probably told people, however media and the people where busy watching the Trump freak show, and listening to all the lies about of how bad the Democrats are.
That is irrelevant. You don’t seem to understand the point I’m making. I’m saying the average American hears critiques and only process them at surface level and forms a black and white evaluation on that basis. This is incredibly fucking stupid.
And knowing that there are so many American’s like this: it is legitimately going to make fewer Americans vote to prevent the fascist from taking power (and did!) because they’ll feel like they’re aligning with the “bad guys” if you critique Democrats in public without a load of additional context (that some wont even absorb anyway if you provided it).
And what are the Democrats doing to prevent that? Offer Medicare for all? Increase federal wage? Increase taxes on the rich? Offer free college? Build social housing?
“People who are hungry, people who are out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.”- Franklin Roosevelt
I feel like your missing that many people do see the Democrats as the bad guys, and I can’t say that I blame them. We recently asked them to say “Genocide is bad, and we won’t support it” and they wouldn’t. They are the baddies
I feel like your missing that many people do see the Democrats as the bad guys
No I’m not. I literally said that they would. And I hold that such a black and white surface level evaluation of the situation and to then choose not to vote is aggressively fucking stupid.
And TBH, I don’t want to help stupid people if they’re going to keep dragging me into the mud. I’ve worried about politics for most of my life and worked to make things better for other people but this election has freed me to focus on helping mostly just myself and a few close people that align with me. Most other people are hopeless. I’m done swimming up a waterfall.
The people complaining hardest are the ones who called democrats genocidal fascists and refused to vote. This site was filled to the brim with anty Democrat posts at election time, now it’s filled with “why aren’t they doing anything??” Posts, it’s the same people
TBF I voted extra hard for Harris and I’m still wondering why Democrats are voting yes on Trumps cabinet picks and why an 83 year old Bernie Sanders is out drumming up the masses while Hakeem Jefferies tells Jon Stewart that we’re all too stupid to know how amazing Democrats are.
ALSO, Democrats don’t seem to give a shit about the genocide, including you. So IDK what the fuck you expect me to say. I voted for harm reduction because I knew exactly what Trump was going to do, but that doesn’t mean I gave up all of my rights to complain about the shit job that Democrats do.
You need to understand that American non-voters are unironically fucking stupid. They heard you complaining about Democrats and that just reinforced their decision to not vote for anyone.
Its simple cause and effect.
Wait, so it’s up to me to sweep all of the bullshit under the rug so we can trick people into voting for the lesser evil instead of the Democrats being responsible for giving the people what they want and need?
Wtf
I’m not saying that. I’m describing cause and effect.
You need to ask yourself what is more important, consequences or virtue? Because sometimes you don’t get both.
What’s more important to me is that we demand better from our elected officials and stop accepting “at least it’s not the very worst” as acceptable.
You can Susan Collins at me all day but you’re never going to convince me to go out and cheer on “could be worse, bro”. I KNOW it could be worse and that’s why I vote against republicans but I’m going to demand the people I vote for DO BETTER.
Our officials mostly lost this election. And might not even have a chance to run again.
Demanding better can be phrased in a way as to not encourage people to abstain form voting them in.
Its doesn’t really matter anymore.
Maybe the Democrats should prove the complainers wrong. The Democratic leadership has had plenty of opportunity to build trust amongst the voters, and decided to ignore them instead. They’ve spent years letting their voters down, which is why they aren’t trusted.
I agree.
We still should have prevented Trump from winning by more people voting Democrat.
And then what? Get 4 more years of a genocidal Cop in the white house further normalizing “tough on the border” policies and genocidal foreign policy. And then follow it up with another Republican with even more of a “mandate” to murder immigrants and bomb brown kids? America has been a dictatorship of the capitalist class since it’s founding. Voting for president is like voting for a temporary court jester. It doesn’t change who runs this country. It only changes which interest of the ruling class are served.
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Edit: Did he delete his comment? I can’t see it. But dude went full lib-fascist. Told me he hopes the brown shirts come for me.
Liberals trying to not side with brown shirts challenge impossible. God, it’s amazing how history repeats itself. It’s ok. They’ll round up all us “Larpers” first. I mean it’s the first line of the poem.
I guess I was LARPing when I went to protest that blocked shipments of weapons in the Seattle docks. Bombs that kill 45% children. I guess I was LARPing when I joined protest for Palestine in Vancouver. I guess I’m LARPing when I organize with the PSL to protest against ICE raids.
I’m sure you’ll say “none of that matters” because resisting fascist with actual material actions is LARPing. But voting, voting in a system that is controlled by the interest of the capitalist class. THAT’S what makes a difference. /s
Maybe come join the live action role players. At least we go outside more than once every 4 years. At least we prepare our neighborhoods with ways to resist ICE. It sounds like you just wanted to fall asleep for 4 more years while actual activist in this country continue to resist fascism and Imperialism whether it’s a blue or red guy in the Whitehouse. Maybe come join the “LARPers” and make actual material impact.
Or you could just cry on reddit that “Leftist” aren’t doing enough. When the only political action you seem to have ever done is cast a vote.
I mean your comment admitted it. You want to hide your head in the sand. Go ahead. Go hide your head in the sand. I’m sure there’s a new Anime you can go watch.
Not just voting, but yes engagement with the electoral system in various ways. As well as volunteer work and organizing.
But I can say I’m done with that now.
I noticed my post got nuked. Interesting.
Edit: Also “siding” with the brown shirts? I merely aim to survive them. If not, oh well at least I’m done dealing with the bullshit of being alive I guess.
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A mod deleted it.
I was being a smart ass because I assumed you and your type are trying to drag me into a violent conflict and I wont engage with that, not after this election result.
Besides realistically they’ll come for both of us and then we’ll be dead and not have to worry about this shit anymore. Its laughable that we’d be able to put up a fight: we would be turned into red mist.
What has the Democrats offered in the face of growing inequality and increasing power of corporations?
They probably told people, however media and the people where busy watching the Trump freak show, and listening to all the lies about of how bad the Democrats are.
That is irrelevant. You don’t seem to understand the point I’m making. I’m saying the average American hears critiques and only process them at surface level and forms a black and white evaluation on that basis. This is incredibly fucking stupid.
And knowing that there are so many American’s like this: it is legitimately going to make fewer Americans vote to prevent the fascist from taking power (and did!) because they’ll feel like they’re aligning with the “bad guys” if you critique Democrats in public without a load of additional context (that some wont even absorb anyway if you provided it).
Why should people vote for a party that do not even want to resolve the most pressing issues that affect their daily lives?
To prevent fascists from taking power.
“The masses” do not think like this. They don’t even know what that word means except in a passing negative emotional reaction.
To prevent fascists from taking over, we should elect corpos who will constantly push us on a rightward trajectory towards fascism.
Instead, we should sprint full speed into fascism. That’ll show the fascists!
And what are the Democrats doing to prevent that? Offer Medicare for all? Increase federal wage? Increase taxes on the rich? Offer free college? Build social housing?
“People who are hungry, people who are out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.”- Franklin Roosevelt
Some of them are.
I feel like your missing that many people do see the Democrats as the bad guys, and I can’t say that I blame them. We recently asked them to say “Genocide is bad, and we won’t support it” and they wouldn’t. They are the baddies
No I’m not. I literally said that they would. And I hold that such a black and white surface level evaluation of the situation and to then choose not to vote is aggressively fucking stupid.
And TBH, I don’t want to help stupid people if they’re going to keep dragging me into the mud. I’ve worried about politics for most of my life and worked to make things better for other people but this election has freed me to focus on helping mostly just myself and a few close people that align with me. Most other people are hopeless. I’m done swimming up a waterfall.