pssst. The AR-15 has been used officially adopted by a total of no military anywhere on the planet.
*about 1,000 Ar15 was purchased between 1957 and 1961, and tested, by the US military. I now realize this can fit the description of “used” if you wanted to be very liberal with the definition of “used,” I suppose. So fine, “this problem was addressed in 1961.”
Now, stop pretending that ar15s sold since 1961 are the same as M16s, better?
Right, of course. Since the AR-15 was only briefly shipped as a military weapon it doesn’t count as one. And since the article is talking about how worship of guns is making gun violence worse by elevating the AR-15 as a status symbol, its non-military status completely invalidates the argument. Clearly, people being hurt and killed by non-military weapons is better for the nation.
I’ve been so blind. Thank you for repeating this fact so I understand. It’s okay because the AR-15 isn’t actually military. All those dead and wounded people can feel better now.
Was tested* by the military and adopted the designation m16 when they picked it up, as they do (remember the m14, the m9, the m…), when they added in the auto sear. Glad I could help against the article trying to mislable for fear mongering purposes and I’m glad you’ve finally opened your eyes.
Well since you specify thr ar15, you mean less than 500 out of 60,000 per year for .2% of gun deaths? It’s not that they don’t matter (your words btw, not mine), it’s that the fear mongering in an attempt to ban ar15s is transparently performative and you’re falling for it and perpetuating it.
Why not just stop calling it military grade, if all it brings is pedantry, and it’s not intended to fear monger? (Which you doubled down on the fear mongering, Mr “I love dead kids because they let me act self rightous on the internet.” But whatever.)
Isn’t the straw already gone from that man you’re beating? Or would you care to address what the post is actually talking about instead of nitpicking on whether or not the AR-15 is a military grade weapon?
Yes yes, “the truth” is a strawman. Why pretend it is? Even if it once was why pretend people are just walking around with those all the time when we both know it isn’t true?
That’s not really correct either. A rifle can be an AR-15 and be select fire. The M16–and later the M4–are simply military designations for the AR-15 in one particular configuration.
Hey, if you want to be technical and pedantic–which I think is the correct way to be here–you gotta get them there details.
Also, it’s only illegal for civilians. Law enforcement agencies and the military can still get select fire rifles, although most police agencies have realized that they don’t serve any real purpose outside of military squad-based tactics.
True, but nobody is talking about banning them for mil, police there are a few though (and I’m one of them, the police should have what we can have and not a drop more, in regards to guns at least. They can have their toys back when they prove they can handle them imo.) But yeah they are less effective then well placed aimed shots in the civilian world by far.
pssst. The AR-15 has been
usedofficially adopted by a total of no military anywhere on the planet.*about 1,000 Ar15 was purchased between 1957 and 1961, and tested, by the US military. I now realize this can fit the description of “used” if you wanted to be very liberal with the definition of “used,” I suppose. So fine, “this problem was addressed in 1961.”
Now, stop pretending that ar15s sold since 1961 are the same as M16s, better?
Yes, the other pendants got there before you long ago. Because that totally invalidates the point of gun violence. Good job.
Well maybe take them off your neck then. Pendants.
Sorry to spoil your fear mongering party with actual facts.
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Right, of course. Since the AR-15 was only briefly shipped as a military weapon it doesn’t count as one. And since the article is talking about how worship of guns is making gun violence worse by elevating the AR-15 as a status symbol, its non-military status completely invalidates the argument. Clearly, people being hurt and killed by non-military weapons is better for the nation.
I’ve been so blind. Thank you for repeating this fact so I understand. It’s okay because the AR-15 isn’t actually military. All those dead and wounded people can feel better now.
Was tested* by the military and adopted the designation m16 when they picked it up, as they do (remember the m14, the m9, the m…), when they added in the auto sear. Glad I could help against the article trying to mislable for fear mongering purposes and I’m glad you’ve finally opened your eyes.
Yes, thank you for making me realize that all those gun deaths don’t matter. What’s really important is how the AR-15 is designated.
Well since you specify thr ar15, you mean less than 500 out of 60,000 per year for .2% of gun deaths? It’s not that they don’t matter (your words btw, not mine), it’s that the fear mongering in an attempt to ban ar15s is transparently performative and you’re falling for it and perpetuating it.
Why not just stop calling it military grade, if all it brings is pedantry, and it’s not intended to fear monger? (Which you doubled down on the fear mongering, Mr “I love dead kids because they let me act self rightous on the internet.” But whatever.)
Isn’t the straw already gone from that man you’re beating? Or would you care to address what the post is actually talking about instead of nitpicking on whether or not the AR-15 is a military grade weapon?
Yes yes, “the truth” is a strawman. Why pretend it is? Even if it once was why pretend people are just walking around with those all the time when we both know it isn’t true?
That’s not really correct either. A rifle can be an AR-15 and be select fire. The M16–and later the M4–are simply military designations for the AR-15 in one particular configuration.
Yes yes except that has been illegal without a class III SOT since 1986 and we all know it.
Hey, if you want to be technical and pedantic–which I think is the correct way to be here–you gotta get them there details.
Also, it’s only illegal for civilians. Law enforcement agencies and the military can still get select fire rifles, although most police agencies have realized that they don’t serve any real purpose outside of military squad-based tactics.
True, but nobody is talking about banning them for mil, police there are a few though (and I’m one of them, the police should have what we can have and not a drop more, in regards to guns at least. They can have their toys back when they prove they can handle them imo.) But yeah they are less effective then well placed aimed shots in the civilian world by far.