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“Part of capitalist ideology is that no matter what the problem, there is a technical fix. Because if there is no technical fix, then there is something wrong with the society, and the defenders of the society do not want to believe this.”
Honestly, that’s a pretty generous take.
Part of today’s capitalism is “fuck you, I got mine”.
I don’t know if capitalism can or cannot be compatible with a living life supporting planet, but I agree that, forced to pick between the two, I’ll choose the living planet.
Capitalists who love capitalism need to get their asses in gear and prove it can save the planet, if they want to keep capitalism.
You know, people are inherently selfish. Don’t know how do you want to design effective non-capitalist system around that
The “selfish human nature” meme was basically invented as a post-hoc justification for the dysfunctional social systems that lead to people behaving that way, it doesn’t actually hold up to scrutiny. Thomas Hobbes for instance was taking the cultural memory of the horrors of war and giving people an easy to swallow explanation, he wasn’t an anthropologist.
The “selfish human nature” meme was basically invented as a post-hoc justification for the dysfunctional social systems
No, it’s a biological reality rooted all the way in theory of evolution. It’s an inherent part of nature of any living being
Taking survival of the fittest and using it as evidence of vaguely analogous principles for how human society works has a long history of being wrong. That the way we behave is biased towards survival and reproduction in our native habitat does not imply that the concept of self interest must be at the foundation of how our minds function.
You’re trying to throw away milions of years of evolution that shaped us, because why exactly? Evolution is a well established scientific theory, what’s your counterargument?
You may want to take a look at the book “The Dawn of Everything” by David Graeber and David Wengrow. It provides a compelling argument that past human societies were quite egalitarian, cooperative and non-authoritarian, and that the human civilizations of recorded history being the way they are is actually an aberration from the norm.
Quick video summary of the book by one of the author’s here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SJi0sHrEI4
You should look into “Selfish Gene” by Richard Dawkins. Cooperative strategies are perfectly viable for selfish reasons - don’t mistake cooperative efforts with altruism
Just use the tax system. We don’t need these huge movements to fundamentally change global economics. We just need to tax the things we don’t like and it’ll be unprofitable for businesses to keep doing them.
Problem is, the people who pass tax law are corporate captured, ensuring such hefty tax laws are not enacted.
we must end the profit system
That totally worked before.
So what? Just don’t try to make anything better? What a pointless comment
So what? Just don’t try to make anything better?
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results
Like we maintain capitalism while it’s destroying our environment? It sure is insane how we keep on doing the same “capitalist innovation will fix this” shit while we are eroding the basis on which all life on earth depends.
If you mean global warming caused by fossil fuels, then you should look at the global renewable energy deployments. It’s not that capitalism cares about environment but it just happens that renewable power gets cheaper and cheaper causing shift.
