Dog meat consumption, a centuries-old practice on the Korean Peninsula, isn’t explicitly prohibited or legalized in South Korea

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      You can still provide them a good environment which is something we should focus since it’s apparent that people aren’t going to stop eating meat.

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          Is that an argument? Many also eat meat and starting to treat animals well is a step in the right direction. Perfect is the enemy of good.

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            So true, we had always slaves and it will never stop. We need to start treating our slaves better, no doubt, but aboliation is never going to happen, we just need to support the good slave owners.

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              Who is saying we shouldn’t stop eating meat? I’m saying it’s 1000 times easier to take the step to treat them better than cut meat consumption all together.

              But man are you something bringing slaves into this. Sure, go ahead and you do your thing and try to stop everyone eating meat while the mass farmed animals keep getting treated like shit. At least you were right, slavery is a bad thing and shouldn’t have happened.

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                I’m saying it’s 1000 times easier to take the step to treat them better than cut meat consumption all together.

                I was just saying its 1000 times easier to treat slaves better than to cut it all together. If Bezos would pay his workers better and let them take a piss on a real toilet it would destroy the profits. Once robots are cheaper and faster I will be the first to stop supporting slavery, but until then I have no choice.

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                  Your comparison is fucking stupid. Slaves are human! They are exactly the same as their owners! Animals are not. It’s disrespectful.

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      You…do know other animals eat each other right? We’re not herbivores and never have been. You also cannot switch everyone to a plant based diet, it’s just as damaging to the planet as to much cattle.

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          Animals rape each other, right?

          Yes because I forgot how animals can consent to carry on their species…the fuck does that have to do with them eating meat?

          Did you read your own source?

          The global food system generates GHG emissions from multiple sources. Major sources include land clearing and deforestation, which release carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitrous oxide (N2O); production and use of fertilizers and other agrichemicals, which emit CO2, N2O, and methane (CH4); enteric fermentation during the production of ruminants (cows, sheep, and goats), which emits CH4; production of rice in paddies, which emits CH4; livestock manure, which emits N2O and CH4; and combustion of fossil fuels in food production and supply chains, which emits CO2. In total, global food system emissions averaged ~16 billion tonnes (Gt) CO2 equivalents year−1 from 2012 to 2017

          It’s the 4th paragraph down??? If you think plants don’t require fertilizers, farm equipment burning fuel, and land clearing…then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

          We next explore how global food system GHG emissions might be reduced through five strategies that target food supply and demand: (i) globally adopting a plant-rich diet [here modeled as a diet rich in plant-based foods that contains moderate amounts of dairy, eggs, and meat, such as a Mediterranean diet or planetary health diet (15)]; (ii) adjusting global per capita caloric consumption to healthy levels; (iii) achieving high yields by closing yield gaps and improving crop genetics and agronomic practices; (iv) reducing food loss and waste by 50%; and (v) reducing the GHG intensity of foods by increasing the efficiency of production, such as by altering management regimes (e.g., precise use of nitrogen fertilizer and other inputs) or technological implementation (e.g., additives to ruminant feed).

          So basically, fat people are a huge cause for our increase in GHG and people who waste food. Even their plant based diet, still has meat in it.

          You’re other two links gathered data and has a ton of assumptions in it because the majority of cattle land cannot be used for crops, it’s either way to rocky, or the soil is complete shit. You do realize as well these estimates include the literal millions of acres that Australia use for free range cattle, and the same as in the USA right?

          Global mean land used to produce 1000 kilocalories of different food products. This is measured in meters squared per 1000kcal (m² per 1000kcal).

          So a cow which will eat straight up anything you cannot consume is going to roam in this large vast areas, and because it does so, all of a sudden it’s 1000k takes up a lot more space. Space which cannot be used for crops.

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            land clearing and deforestation, which release carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitrous oxide (N2O); production and use of fertilizers and other agrichemicals, which emit CO2, N2O, and methane (CH4); enteric fermentation during the production of ruminants (cows, sheep, and goats), which emits CH4; p

            Why do you only highlight some items? Everything could be reduced by 3/4 with a plant based diet. No change will result in +2°C. Once it hits +4°C there is no more animal agriculture.

            Your nature argument is flawed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy You can’t justify your behavior with wild animals.

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              Why do you only highlight some items?

              Because you pointed out like veganism is going to save the planet…and I pointed out, that it’s bullshit using your own sources.

              Everything could be reduced by 3/4 with a plant based diet.

              No it couldn’t, I’ve already pointed this out…hell 75+% of our GHGs aren’t from food production.

              No change will result in +2°C. Once it hits +4°C there is no more animal agriculture.

              So why are we focusing on the smallest area? Vs trying to fix the 75% of shit that isn’t keeping us alive?

              Your nature argument is flawed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy You can’t justify your behavior with wild animals.

              Did…did you just point me to a wiki article on philosophical ethics? The fuck lol. I was also responding to the person who said making an animal die is cruel…you keep being a militant vegan…and I’ll keep eating meat.