Is anyone here aware of some alternatives to mentioned instant messaging applications ? Alot of people keep mentioning Signal , however since it is US based I am not going to entertain it as a possibility.

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    I highly suggest getting third party reviews instead of competitor reviews which are ALWAYS SLANTED. Not to mention Matrix based like Element and Fluffychat are Open Source. Unlike Signal. Not to mention Signal provided info to US authorities fairly recently.

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      Signal is open-source. Signal did not provide info to the US. They don’t have any info to share anyways. And you can confirm that as their code is open-source. Them sharing data is mathematically impossible.

      What are you on about? You seem to have no idea what you’re talking about. Stop spreading unreferenced misinformation. If you have something that we don’t know about share a source or prove it!

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        They had no choice due to a warrant. They did provide login information to the court and sat on it for a year before telling everyone.

        Did you know that with Matrix based clients you can run your own server and instance for just you and your buddies? And the cops could confiscate your server at your house but can’t get anything, period, due to it being encrypted and yours.

        Rmind us all again… is Signal on a centralized server?

        Also, why are you pushing Signal from California?

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          They had no choice due to a warrant. They did provide login information to the court and sat on it for a year before telling everyone.

          You mean IP address? That’s literally all they had. This is no breach. Your IP is public information when you use the internet. What are you saying exactly?

          Did you know that with Matrix based clients you can run your own server and instance for just you and your buddies? And the cops could confiscate your server at your house but can’t get anything, period, due to it being encrypted and yours.

          The same goes for Signal. They don’t have any of your data and less metadata than Matrix. If the cops raid my Matrix instance they get profile information and social trees of all my users. They don’t get that when raiding the Signal servers because of Sealed Sender and other precautions that Matrix doesn’t implement. **It does not matter that Signal is centralized. **It changes nothing.

          Making a service decentralized does not change anything about security. In fact, because of the constraints of federation, it’s even less secure and private in some ways that cannot be avoided.

          Also, I’m not pushing Signal. I’m responding to the misinformation being shared here.

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        And you can confirm that as their code is open-source

        You cannot prove that the code they release is the same as the code being run on their server.

        What’s a National Security Letter?

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          Yes you can prove the client! And for the server, you don’t need to prove it! They can run extremely malicious code and it wouldn’t change anything. That’s the whole idea behind zero-trust security. You only need to verify that the client is secure and encrypts everything.

          You shouldn’t talk about things so confidently if you don’t know the technical details of how it works.