Is anyone here aware of some alternatives to mentioned instant messaging applications ? Alot of people keep mentioning Signal , however since it is US based I am not going to entertain it as a possibility.

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    22 hours ago

    Yeah no, that’s not how it works. The closed source Signal server by definition gets the meta data on your chats. It’s simply needed for it to do its job. When receiving the encrypted message contents the Signal server, at the moment of the IP connection, knows the identity of the sending party. It also must know the identity of the receiving party, else it would be very difficult to make sure the message reaches them.

    That’s the user graph right there. Now Signal says they don’t log it, and I’m sure they don’t (here’s where you look up what a National Security Letter is btw). If I run my own Matrix server for me and my friends, I can prove that it doesn’t log.

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      14 hours ago

      Before making an uneducated comment you should at least read the source I shared and read the corresponding whitepaper explaining it. Your comment is a bit embarressing.

      If you use a VPN (hiding your IP), Signal cannot build a social tree.

      If you have any questions in particular feel free to ask.

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          7 minutes ago

          I doubt that based on the little technical understanding you show.

          But if you do, explain to us how they are able to build a social tree when the users involved use a VPN? (Note that Sealed Sender is enabled by default). If there is any novel security insight that you discovered please share it!