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    Skilled labor is something that you need outside training in order to do.

    When someone is an ‘unskilled worker,’ it means they’re only eligible for positions that train them.

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      Nevertheless, a worker who has been trained is a worker who has become skilled.

      A worker who has been trained on a job site is worker who has become skilled in work at the job site.

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        When one has spent half a day learning to pack boxes, then a week learning to do it quick enough, I’ll grant they have acquired a skill. Probably not a transferable skill, but definitely a skill

        It’s still unskilled work

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      Name one thing that doesn’t require outside skill. Literally nothing you know in your life you learned on your own.

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        I’m not saying you’re wrong, just what people intend to mean when they say unskilled labor.

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                Citation needed. Please tell me the name of the people, the date they invented the term, the justification they offered for the term, and private letters that indicate this conspiracy.

                Take as much time as you need to provide these four pieces of data that would back up your claim.

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                  This is not a genuine ask. You just don’t want to acknowledge propaganda.

                  No work is deserving of such scorn and disrespect. All work requires effort and should be recognised as such.

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                    Don’t tell me what my intentions are you are not a mind reader. And don’t imply something I didn’t say.

                    Now how are citations going?

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              I can’t fathom cognitive dissonance of being able to say unskilled and implying it isn’t equivalent to $0

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                I can’t fathom

                Well, theory of mind is a skill.

                Fine. Maybe an analogy will help. If you say X = 2 and I say that it does not, does that mean I am saying it is equal to 3? You made an assertion, I reject your assertion, that doesn’t mean anything else. A does not imply B in this case.

                Unskilled labor does not mean it should be done for free. No one is saying that, except you. Because that strawman is able to defeat.

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                  Work is activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result. Something unskilled isn’t work. Not sure what’s so hard to understand.

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                    My dude, are you seriously in here arguing that unskilled labor doesn’t deserve pay? Wow, how vile. Good troll.

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            I have a master’s degree, but I can honestly say working at Wendy’s took just as much skill as what I do now. “People” who use terms like “unskilled labor” are part of the problem. There’s no such thing as “unskilled labor.” I’m agreeing with you.

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        Packing boxes, unless you mean “outside training” to include walking and talking

        It’s unskilled in terms that any moderately competent person can do the job and become proficient at it quickly

        My skilled job required tertiary education, plus about two years on the job for a person to become good at it