• grte@lemmy.ca
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    Why would they need to? Did that person bomb the hospital and now needs to justify it?

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      The best thing to do with those tunnels is just blow them up. But now they will be forced to enter to give the weenies some sort of proof. They found dead hostages and a large amount of weapons but that isn’t enough.

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        Blow them up without actual proof of any “main HQ used by enemy” but only intel gained from multiple source, and kill thousands of refugees, dozens of doctor, and hundreds of patients, under a protected ground by the Geneva Convention which UN member have to observe.

        You sir are fucking brilliant.

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        As far as I’m aware, they found one dead hostage near, not at, the hospital, 1 vehicle with weapons, a film of a cache of weapons that BBC analysis showed had been edited and altered and 1 tunnel shaft.

        Even if we take all that at face value (which the BBC analysis demonstrates we shouldn’t), this is hardly the command centre of Hamas that the IDF has led us to believe was its reason for bombing a hospital.

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          They found two and perhaps you or the BBC should go down into the spider hole. Great way to be sent home in a bag.

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            I’m sure journalists will be allowed into the ‘tunnel’ after the IDF have been down there long enough to make the requisite changes.

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                In what sense are they pre-determined?

                The IDF claimed the hospital was a major centre of Hamas operation. They’ve presented nothing to back that up except doctored videos and a few weapons. My view that the tunnel will probably not establish this thriving hub of Hamas activity the IDF said it was is not determined by anything other than the evidence, if you can even call it that, that the IDF have presented thus far and a suspicion that they’ll doctor whatever they do (or more likely don’t) find in that single tunnel.

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                  Because it’s obvious it doesn’t matter. Whatever might be done, a reason will be found not to believe it.

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                    No, it absolutely does matter. And the reason it matters is because what the IDF claims has so far totally failed to match up with what it’s shown. That’s why people are so cynical. If they show evidence for their claims, evidence that can be independently verified by decent journalists, I’d be much more prepared to believe them.

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                You act like combat footage via action camera (GoPro etc) aren’t the norm these days. I can assure you I watch combat footage literally everyday and the fact that such a technologically forward country has not provided the action footage from the hospital is extremely telling.

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            Just poke a camera inside and prove it isn’t just a basement! Until I see proof that the hole is a tunnel I will assume it’s just a hole.

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            That I need? I’ve seen more than enough to draw my own conclusions about what Israel is up to. They seem to want to convince the world of something, though.

              • But now they will be forced to enter to give the weenies some sort of proof.

                So, your judgment is predetermined. Figures.

                So wanting evidence is bad, and forming an opinion without evidence is also bad, am I reading you right?

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                  If you really want to trade sad stories, there are quite a few from October 7th, but I am sure you aren’t interested as I am not interested in your appeal of sympathy.

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                    Israel did like x10 October 7’s to Gaza, and that’s an understatement given that people are now starving and dying of thirst. Israel should be ashamed.

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        Dead people at a hospital!?!!?!? No way!

        This isn’t complex and I’ve not actually seen any proof of dead hostages nor are we likely to find it anytime soon. I imagine I’m a couple days Israel will say they have genetic matches while ignoring the fact they keep genetic records of their citizens.