In leftist spaces, right-leaning ideas are challenged. In right-leaning spaces, leftists are banned and leftist ideas are censored. Why are conservatives opposed to the free marketplace of ideas?

Serious question.

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    Conservatives know in their hearts that they are a fringe minority when it comes to views on how to treat others.

    Colbert was right reality has a liberal bias and conservatives need a safe space to pretend that the numbers are equal and that their arguments have validity.

    Often times you notice conservative threads that are locked contain misinformation and outright lies. For instance they call the Russia investigation a hoax.

    If reality pierces that bubble they are shown for the fools they are so they have to pretend that liberals are brigading in bad faith and not simply showing conservative views are simply invalid factually.

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      Thanks for the reply. This sounds a lot like how AM / Talk radio works on the right as well. Leftist talk shows actually bring on interesting guests, but right wing shows always cut the mic when the guest says something thought-provoking.

      I would think conservatives would benefit from having their ideas challenged. It was the main reason why I started paying more attention to leftist ideas: they are actually defensible.

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    This is a confirmation bias thing, not a political thing. If you are in charge of a discussion forum you will always push it to support your confirmation bias. This is why the first amendment is so important. If the government is in charge of public discourse, the people in charge (either side) will work extra hard to ensure their opposing ideas are simply dismissed as without merit.

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      This just isn’t what I’ve seen in lots of leftist spaces, personally. I think it’s more of an issue when it comes to indefensible topics. For example, in a leftist community, a right-leaning person may make a statement, but then many more people will typically pile on and present arguments as to why the statement is incorrect. Sure, some of them will resort to ad hominem attacks, but for the most part, leftists attack the ideas, not the person.

      But what you’ve described is 100% my experience when it comes to the conservative community. I was permabanned on reddit because a conservative mod didn’t like what I had to say. And what I had to say was pretty mild. It was argumentative and possibly toxic but boiled down to calling them “slow”, which sums up the entire ideology - slow to adapt, slow to progress, regressive.

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        for the most part, leftists attack the ideas, not the person.

        It was argumentative and possibly toxic but boiled down to calling them “slow”

        Lol

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          What’s funny? Got anything to share? I don’t lie.

          You should try contributing to the conversation instead of showing your lack of understanding.

          This is my biggest issue with conservatism: there’s no pragmatics, only ad hominem attacks and overconfidence. Wouldn’t you rather be correct?

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            What’s funny?

            Your stunning lack of self awareness. You posted a paragraph shitting on the other side for ad hominem attacks then immediately followed it with a paragraph bitching that they banned you for an ad hominem attack. That’s funny.

            showing your lack of understanding

            I understand what you said, that’s why I laughed at you

            only ad hominem attacks

            Right, like the one that got you banned from reddit

            Wouldn’t you rather be correct?

            My opinion is that both conservatives and liberals are insufferable twats without an original thought in their collective heads who vehemently defend their off-the-shelf prepackaged beliefs with snark and insults and zero substance while denigrating the other side for doing the exact same thing. I am correct.

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              “Slow” is a speed at which some people are. “Conservatism” by its very name is a bit of a call to “slow down”. Sorry if the truth hurts. I’m also slow in a lot of respects. Might be a little ad hominem, but it’s no where near the level of ad hominem attacks you’re making, I’ll give you that.

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                The fact that you keep implying I’m a conservative, like you can’t comprehend that there’s anyone out there who doesn’t subscribe to either ideology and despite the fact that I lump them in with you every chance I get, is also hilarious.