• Asafum@feddit.nl
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    1 year ago

    Of course they don’t own the votes, but you vote to get an outcome. If you’re voting for someone third party who has literally 0 chance of winning, but actually agree with some of what the Democrats want and not much at all of what Republicans want then the only outcome you get is the party you agree with least winning because you wanted to send a message to the party you partially agreed with.

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      the only outcome you get is the party you agree with least winning because you wanted to send a message to the party you partially agreed with.

      it’s not about sending a message to democrats or republicans. it’s about who i want to win. also, it’s really hard to tell which party i agree with least.

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        That’s what I thought the first time as well. It turns out that who you want to win means fuck all in real life. It’s a bit like saying “I don’t want my arm to be broken” when you fall on it. I’m sure you don’t, but if you care about how it heals you’ll go to the hospital and get a cast put on it, even if it’s uncomfortable.

        And to me, it’s easy to figure out who I agree with least. One of them actively wants LGBT folks dead, and the other one doesn’t actively want that. Everything else could be exactly the same and it would still be braindead easy to figure out.

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          1 year ago

          I wouldn’t count on the Democrats to keep genocidal maniacs from your doorstep. better to get a gun and join a local resistance movement.

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            I’d rather the people that don’t presently want genocidal maniacs killing me and my friends be in office than the genocidal maniacs themselves, and you must recognize that it is, in fact, one of those two choices that are going to win.

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          if it means so much to you, I live in a swing state. the state penalty for selling my vote is $5k. that’s the federal fine, too. put another 10k on top for my troubles and I’ll vote any way you like.

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          they’re not the same with one exception tho. they’re both deeply bad In similar and unique ways. neither is acceptable.

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              1 year ago

              they want to restrict guns to government thugs. they lie about supporting unions, stabbing the working class in the back.

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                Better than republicans who were the first ones doing gun control because black people had guns, and who are openly hostile to unions and the working class, and treat them even worse.

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                  I don’t think getting stabbed in the back is better than getting stabbed in the front.