• orcrist@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    Of course there are some dangerous dogs. But we have seen dozens of videos of cops shooting tiny harmless dogs, or missing dogs and hitting people behind the dogs, or keeping people from bringing dogs who were just shot to the vets, and yet somehow the cops are never arrested or convicted for their actions.

    You claimed that “police force is often necessary” but actually you have not provided any evidence. Is it “often” necessary? Maybe it’s only “occasionally” necessary. We can speculate, but without data, we just don’t know.

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      11 months ago

      Videos are anecdotes not data, which this article is reporting on.

      https://youtu.be/h2CplwwodEs?si=MUBcBdOt5apIw1Y2

      Here is a video of dogs mauling a man and cops shooting them to stop it. There’s a lot of videos of this nature, just as I’m sure there are videos of cops overusing force as you claim but do not provide evidence for. My inquiry is about this article drawing the 10,000 dogs a year conclusion without parsing the reasons behind it, which it seems it does not.

      Human lives are always above a non-sapient animals because otherwise you are some degree of a misanthropist. Misanthropy breeds contempt and contempt breeds hate.

      The phrase “not provided any evidence” is applicable to your entire post as well.

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        11 months ago

        We all agree dogs can hurt people and cops can kill harmless dogs. But you made a claim about the /frequency/ of incidents without any data to support it. That was irresponsible of you, especially because you were criticizing the article for a similar reason. Please do better next time.

        And this is important. If cops are mostly killing dangerous dogs and occasionally killing harmless dogs, then we might be sympathetic to their occasional mishaps, provided that reckless and careless officers are properly reprimanded or prosecuted when they violate policy or law. But if most of the killings are unnecessary, we are less likely to sympathize.