Recent testing revealed that Arch Linux, Pop!_OS, and even Nobara Linux, which is maintained by a single developer, all outstripped Windows for the performance crown on Windows-native games. The testing was run at the high-end of quality settings, and Valve's Proton was used to run Windows games on Linux.
  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    2216·
    11 months ago

    “on that one specific machine.”

    You’re missing that part from your premise and it’s the important one.

    Notice how they didn’t use one with an Nvidia GPU… Or even hardware released this year either…

    Edit: Aaaw, I made you angwy and you downvoted me :(

    • inverted_deflector@startrek.websiteEnglish
      3·
      11 months ago

      Nvidia isnt so bad if you’re on a stable distro it supports and using x(though Ive heard wayland support is improving for it). On rolling or more cutting edge distros where the kernel is likely to change every few weeks and major DE versions might ship that proprietary driver will hurt.

      That said while amd is generally better on linux for this reason it’s worth mentioning that it has two huge flaws:

      1.Its not perfect like the fans mention. As someone who owned a 3500u and 6650u apu life under amd isnt always sunny. 3500u had a kernel regression for about half a year that prevented the cpu from idling and rembrant apus have an issue where the whole system locks up which seems to come and go(feels like it’s gone for now but Ive thought that before). Desktop gpus are better, but they still did suffer from driver bugs. I think my experience with my 5600xt was better than windows fans had for that generation, but it was not entirely stable and I did suffer from many kernel panics and system freezes. A few mesa and kernel releases fixed that, but it wasnt perfectly smooth. In addition to that no hdmi 2.1 support which is fine unless you game using your nice oled tv because no tvs come with display port. Proprietary drivers do allow for supporting some of the more obnoxious features that arent allowed.

      1. It can vary gpu/cpu to gpu/cpu for how fresh your software will need to be, but generally newer hardware needs very new kernels just for basic support and it may need a few more releases to get stable or good. So if you want to just sit back with ubutnu LTS or debian you need to make sure the release cycle lines up with support for your hardware. The other end of the spectrum is that being on a bleeding or cutting edge distro can mean stability issues and regressions. So for example a month or three ago fedora pushed a kernel update that had a regression where my 6800xt gpu wouldnt clock up when utilized so gaming framerates tanked and retroarch shaders were choking up. I could just use the old kernel but I had to make sure that the kernel updates didnt bump it away. Also an entire point release and several releases after that before the bug was fixed.

      So while there is a lot of pro amd comments in the linux world and its worth acknowledging that the open source drivers are generally good it’s not perfect and the grass isnt always greener.

      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        4·
        11 months ago

        Just from that comment we can see how far from mainstream adoption Linux is for gaming… You really need to want to understand how things work to fix things that might not work natively. Not every gamer wants to be super knowledgeable about computers, most just want to play games. Heck, I’m very good with computers and I know that what little time I have to play games I don’t want to spend trying to make them work…

        • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
          67·
          11 months ago

          The issue isn’t performance, it’s Nvidia’s unstable drivers.

          E: fuck me, are people stupid? Performance and stability are not the same thing.

          Performance on Nvidia cards on Linux is fine. The issue is the bizarre issues you have like multi-monitor weirdness or adaptive refresh rate not working properly. Nvidia’s drivers need kinks worked out but they aren’t slower.

          • Kecessa@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            74·
            11 months ago

            You realise that not having access to stable drivers is a performance issue because it means games don’t run properly or at all?

            “The issue isn’t my bike, it’s the bent wheels on it!”

              • Kecessa@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                42·
                11 months ago

                Wow you're *incredibly* smart.

                I certainly am smarter than the people who base their conclusion of an OS performance being better than another OS’ on a test made on a single hardware setup.

                It’s also very funny that when people say they have a hard time making games run on Linux and they mention that they have an Nvidia GPU the first reaction is “Oh yeah, that’s why” and then they’re told to try whatever voodoo magic is in season at the moment to make it run properly but you’re here saying “Oh no, there’s no problem in game!” Yeah, because the problem is actually loading the game inthe first place so there can’t be any issues IN it if you can’t get in!

                  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                    11·
                    11 months ago

                    I don’t know why you’re not upset that they present it as a fact when they only tested on one machine with AMD hardware to come to a general conclusion as if it applied to all hardware.

                    You don’t need to defend some random OS.

          • iegod@lemm.eeEnglish
            63·
            11 months ago

            Irrelevant to someone that wants their game to run.

            • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
              35·
              11 months ago

              I didn’t say otherwise. We were talking performance, not stability, that’s why I said the word performance, then said Nvidia’s drivers were unstable.

              Understand? Performance means performance and stability means stability. I can appreciate that might be hard to grasp, but they’re different words for a reason, and that reason is they mean different things.

              I don’t know why I bother talking to morons on Lemmy who deliberately misinterpret what people say and use that as a gotcha. You’re not smart for using a straw man argument.

              Nvidia needs to sort their shit out.