• YuccaMan [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    11 months ago

    Israel isn’t a real state, it’s a neoimperialist attack dog that occasionally forgets its leash. It’s theft and murder incarnate. If you really consider historical context to be important and still hold to a two-state solution as the ideal outcome, then I’m sorry, you’re lacking a great deal of historical context and haven’t the right to invoke it here.

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      Unfortunately the stain of religion has caused the fruition of needless casualties throughout the centuries. As the world becomes more atheistic over time due to the nature of scientic discovery, my hopes for change grow.

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        11 months ago

        Broadly speaking, religion is not diminished by scientific discovery, it is diminished by people’s material needs being met and their prospects looking good. Our friend Marx called that one a long time ago, but modern studies on secularization say the same thing.

        But Israel/Palestine is not about religion except as a smokescreen. It is about race, specifically an overwhelmingly white population of settler colonists creating and expanding an ethnostate. The aggrievement of the Palestinians is not that Jews exist, but that their homes were taken and their family members and friends were butchered like animals.

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        Alright, I mean this in the kindest way possible, you have no idea what you’re talking about. I don’t have the time required nor the desire to rectify that, so I’ll simply say that you’ve spent a regrettable amount of time here embarrassing yourself in front of people who know substantially more about history and politics than you do. Trying to debate communists on those subjects at all is generally a bad idea, but to do so armed only with natsec PR and mystery statistics is something else.

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          11 months ago

          I mean personally I support communism, but I have yet to see it implemented without authoritarian influence. The Native Americans have a pretty decent communal system, which the US should learn from.

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            I mean personally I support communism, but I have yet to see it implemented without authoritarian influence

            Pretty rich coming from someone on the side of idf-cool isntrael

            Also you do realize why socialists and communists become “authoritarian” right? It’s at least partly to do with people like you who would have snitched to the Apartheid government and even attempted to kill them.

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